Pablo Torre

I do want to get to the bleeding in the world of golf.

I just regard you as one of the most plugged in people that I know, certainly into this sport, certainly into the world of live.

So just give me a sense just behind the scenes as the collapse, as the bleeding has been happening steadily into public view now.

How would you explain this to someone who's not getting the texts and calls and the messages that you have been navigating over the last month now?

I want to remind people of the decadence, of the sales pitch, right?

Because so much of what's happening, the schadenfreude that everyone is hearing around sports, around the collapse and the wounds, live when it was born in 2022.

For those who don't remember, what did it look and sound like?

He got that contract.

Right.

I mean, so Jon Rahm gets $300 million.

Phil Mickelson, your boy, gets $200 million.

Brooks Koepka, $130 million, as you just referenced.

Dustin Johnson, $125 million.

But the estimations of how much

the piff has lost on Liv.

Is there a back of the envelope math that you feel like makes sense?

Oh, yeah.

So the reason I wanted to bring Alan Shipnuck, our journalist friend, back on the show is not to just throw dirt on the apparent grave of live golf, the subject Alan literally wrote the book about and has covered as closely as anybody.

I wanted to have Alan back on because by understanding how boring old golf became this geopolitical soap opera, I suspect that we might find something out about the future of sports in general.

Because when Liv first launched, the premise of spending $5 billion in less than five years was not an indictment.