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But I wonder if this has said to you anything about what the ceiling was for this project to begin with.

I want to get to the sort of timeline here in a second, but yeah, look, one of the most famous quotes was the one that you got from Phil Mickelson that he resented and continues to resent, I can only imagine, because he said to you as you're writing your book on him,

Quote, we know they killed Khashoggi and have a horrible record on human rights.

They execute people over there for being gay.

Knowing all of this, why would I even consider it?

Because this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to reshape how the PGA Tour operates.

And so, again, in that infamous quote about the scary motherfuckers, as he calls them, that are the Saudi authorities, there was already this notion of, yes, but there is a transaction that is worth it.

What's interesting to me is the plan and the strategy and who are the parties who most could use a partner like Saudi Arabia.

And so I bring it back to Vision 2030.

And that was Saudi Arabia's grand plan.

And it was launched in 2016.

You may recall something else that happened that was quite pivotal later in 2016.

It's remarkable, man, how symmetrical some of this is.

So I remember the last time we were hiring at PTFO and one candidate in particular really stood out.

I recall them having smart questions, being really curious, just clearly eager to learn more about the role.

And you could tell, you could tell that they really wanted to be there.

It's the kind of energy that's hard to miss.

Yes, they were qualified, but they also felt like a natural fit.

And their excitement in particular made the decision really easy.

And if you are hiring, you want a candidate who is passionate about the role.