Pablo Torre

So were they duped or were they potentially in on what was going on?

they seem to be victims.

That said, I think the question of like, what are you obligated to know about the thing you give your name to is the thing I think about all the time working with you guys.

But also when it comes to people trying to be good guys who are getting into partnerships with people who are not so good, actually, the question would be,

Leonardo DiCaprio, did you know, or Robert Downey Jr., when you made that commercial that we put into the episode, did you know what you were really endorsing?

A question that many celebrities have fallen into traps about, in fairness to them, so that seems all logical.

But when you're alleged to be the greatest investor of the last 20 years, a guy in Steve Ballmer who was a titan of industry, again, the sixth richest person in the world,

who has a personal relationship to the players involved here.

And by that, I mean the actual executives at this company that you partnered with them 23 years, $300 million, right?

How is it that you don't know would be the question.

And that's a different question for a celebrity than a businessman.

Yeah, if you think about every owner's foremost incentive as self-interest, then the question becomes, what else have you guys been doing?

What have you guys been up to?

I doubt that there has been a story with this level of documentation and depth in terms of how they tried to do it.

That was only caught again because the company collapsed into bankruptcy.

But...

I think it's interesting, right?

If you think about the room where they have to debate this stuff, the foremost voice when it comes to complaints to the league office about how small market teams have basically been crushed by rich guys now, these new billionaires, the new owners, the richest guys in sports history like Steve Ballmer, that team has been the Oklahoma City Thunder historically.

They always raise this stuff.

They can tell the difference between what they can do and what they can't.