Pablo Torre

And she was beating everybody and then one day she looked over and said, that's the largest human being I've ever seen.

This is really cool.

I've never done anything like this before.

I've never done a podcast before.

Apologies in advance.

No, no, no, no.

So I want to explain for our audience here.

Let's just get into it.

I want to explain for our audience here that you, Madison, are joining us from where?

I'm in San Francisco.

I'm in the Center for Investigative Reporting Offices.

The Center for Investigative Reporting is, of course, the parent company of Mother Jones, which is one of the most venerable journalistic institutions in America, has been that way for decades upon decades upon decades.

And it's really cool to partner with you guys on a story that I have been trying to fit into our strange docket

Because I think that this investigation that you did for us is the thing that has been lurking underneath the surface of like the most explosive topic in sports and politics for, what, four years?

Four quite consequential years at the very least at this point?

Yeah, even more.

2020, I think, is when this all started.

And it has been a wild ride.

And I'm excited to dig into this part of it.

Yeah, so this is, if nothing else, a profile.