Pablo Torre

It really is.

As the owner, as a guy who still somehow has, I remember I did a profile of the Mike Woodson-era Knicks for ESPN the Magazine.

And never returned, apologies to the MSG PR department, we've never been the same since, admittedly, you and me as our dynamic is concerned.

But I never returned the seven DVDs that I got from them, which are individual episodes of the Mike Woodson show on MSG.

Yes.

If you remember that.

Oh, yeah, of course.

You know, every now and then a little ED Falco, you know, throw it out there.

That's right.

Four courses.

Shout out.

So at the end here, the thing that I'm curious about, because I have been tearing up watching, again, other people tear up.

Yeah.

Talking about family that never got to see this for 53 years.

Yeah.

Talking about how this is as much about the things that they miss about their loved ones as it is anything else.

If your parents were around, Desus, and they got to see all of this, and they got to see you in an empty school bus in Times Square.

Desus, aka Daniel.

Yeah, the government name.

I like to think that when Victor Wimbanyama, whose name I haven't even said until the end of this podcast, missed those two free throws, it's because the city of New York climbed inside of him and said, Boo.