Pablo Torre

What do you got behind you?

Oh, you're just embarrassed.

You're embarrassed to show me what your actual residence is like, those books.

The books behind you, you haven't read those books.

Those are just fake books.

That's right.

I was hoping you would have, you know, like betting slips framed.

You ever save those?

So I should just quickly explain here that the reason I am on this call right now is because of the episode we published last week about NBA betting and these poker games that allegedly involve the Italian mafia and also NBA players and coaches, and more recently, the FBI.

Because while I've been thinking about this scandal and the federal government's concurrent pair of indictments, there is one person in specific I've been meaning to talk to about it.

Someone I don't agree with on lots of issues, but someone whose secrets, whose perspective I always seek when it comes to these exact subjects.

And so I asked this person to introduce himself on camera.

That's pretty good.

Also wildly insufficient.

Okay.

What was your job with the Mavericks, Bob?

What was your job title in the NBA?

It meant you, like me, talked to Mark Cuban a lot.

You are also, according to both, I would say, historical record and legend, one of the most successful NBA bettors of all time.

And he's not wrong, by the way.