Pablo Torre

So the three teams wanted to have their bench on the side of the court in which their own team would be playing defense in the first half.

So that's the key insight, though, is that if you have your defense in front of you on the side of the court that your bench is on, the coaches can communicate with the players more effectively, more clearly.

Along the sidelines, the bench can try to interfere.

Explain what that means.

Explain the adjustment that the sportsbooks made in response to this pattern.

They were underweighting the impact of having the bench on the side of the defense.

I never thought about how big it is.

Genuinely, it seems when you spell it out, obvious.

Like when the coaches can more closely communicate with the players and the bench itself can help play defense.

Right.

The structural choice that has an enormous impact that was so underweighted that you made, how much money do you think you made on this specific insight that no one else was really seeing as clearly?

So by the time you get to the Mavericks and you have this title, Director of Quantitative Research, in which you're talking directly, certainly to the coaching staff, you're helping advise them on NBA strategy, using data, using your models.

But you also have this perspective from the world of betting.

To what extent did betting come up at the highest levels of conversations that you had while you were with the Mavs?

Yeah, he showed up with the air cast.

But to be clear about your conversation with Adam Silver when she's talking to the Mavericks,

But that's after the 2018 finals, presumably, just to put us in the timeline there.

And now we look at this indictment, and we see that allegedly, Damon Jones, who was serving as this weird volunteer shadow assistant coach around the Lakers, allegedly fed information that this player, who was identified by the powers of logic and deduction,

is LeBron James, was not going to play in a game.

You have a real-time example of player availability with LeBron James, allegedly, being at the center of the biggest gambling scandal in the history of the NBA, this side of, allegedly, Tim Donahue, right?