Pablo Torre

It is coming out.

It is called Runs in the Family.

What's the metaphor that you choose to use to describe the process of birthing this?

Yeah, I should say, I mean, to quote Tony Kornheiser about his own hands, these fingers don't really type anymore.

Yeah, that whole thing about how you are not burdened by the neurosis of writing.

I, for those not familiar, was making my paragraphs into like perfect symmetrical rectangles before I gave myself permission to write the next paragraph.

You, it turns out.

I'm seeing you for that.

And you have not helped.

I didn't know Dillon before the Super Bowl with the Chiefs, in which it was like, oh, that's the guy who has been coaching, you know, Damian Williams, where they are just like scampering all over the field.

So I just need you to know that what we're going to do with this today might seem like a story about a running backs coach at this point.

A coach whose job, if you were not familiar, is basically devoted to teaching a running back how to shrug off and fight off all of the people who are desperately trying to stop them from moving forward as much as one single yard.

But this story is about more than that.

This story is also about a running back.

a running back whose entire identity was a mystery.

Because thanks to the laws in our country, as we will discuss, adoption as a concept way too often entails mystery.

But what we know is that long before Dylan McCullough beat the Niners in the Super Bowl and became a successful NFL coach and also recently agreed to talk to Pablo Torre, finds out, for this episode, as you will hear throughout, he was born and put up for adoption in December 1972.

And we also know that Dillon's adoptive parents lived in a place that would be economically decimated by the collapse of the steel industry by September 1977, when Dillon was just four years old.

And that place was Youngstown, Ohio.

That is where Dylan McCullough comes from.