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Pagan Kennedy

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Fresh Air
The Secret History Of The Rape Kit

the person if you were a reporter who knew what was going on and would give you a good salty quote you know about what was happening but also she was very much kind of had her hands in every piece of it from the funding to working with the hospitals and working with rape crisis centers and all of that you know part of what you're setting up here and laying out in this book

Fresh Air
The Secret History Of The Rape Kit

Yes, absolutely. You know, this was very much on my mind. I'm really interested in the politics of invention and design. I worked for a couple of years as what I called the who made that guy at the New York Times Magazine. And my job was every week to tell the backstory of an ordinary object. So I was... spent so much time hunting down the people who had actually originated ideas.

Fresh Air
The Secret History Of The Rape Kit

Yes, absolutely. You know, this was very much on my mind. I'm really interested in the politics of invention and design. I worked for a couple of years as what I called the who made that guy at the New York Times Magazine. And my job was every week to tell the backstory of an ordinary object. So I was... spent so much time hunting down the people who had actually originated ideas.

Fresh Air
The Secret History Of The Rape Kit

Yes, absolutely. You know, this was very much on my mind. I'm really interested in the politics of invention and design. I worked for a couple of years as what I called the who made that guy at the New York Times Magazine. And my job was every week to tell the backstory of an ordinary object. So I was... spent so much time hunting down the people who had actually originated ideas.

Fresh Air
The Secret History Of The Rape Kit

And what I learned from that was that the people who are at the forefront of the problem are often the ones who are best fit to solve it. So, you know, rock climbers invent really good rock climbing gear. People who with, you know, low vision are really good at inventing things that are audio-based. A lot of our audio technology came from people who had vision problems. It makes sense.

Fresh Air
The Secret History Of The Rape Kit

And what I learned from that was that the people who are at the forefront of the problem are often the ones who are best fit to solve it. So, you know, rock climbers invent really good rock climbing gear. People who with, you know, low vision are really good at inventing things that are audio-based. A lot of our audio technology came from people who had vision problems. It makes sense.

Fresh Air
The Secret History Of The Rape Kit

And what I learned from that was that the people who are at the forefront of the problem are often the ones who are best fit to solve it. So, you know, rock climbers invent really good rock climbing gear. People who with, you know, low vision are really good at inventing things that are audio-based. A lot of our audio technology came from people who had vision problems. It makes sense.

Fresh Air
The Secret History Of The Rape Kit

Things like that, yeah. And I've always been obsessed with the wheelchair ramp because... It's an invention. It's an idea that obviously makes buildings accessible to many more people. But it's also when you see, if you're able-bodied and you see a wheelchair ramp, it sends a message about who matters and who doesn't.

Fresh Air
The Secret History Of The Rape Kit

Things like that, yeah. And I've always been obsessed with the wheelchair ramp because... It's an invention. It's an idea that obviously makes buildings accessible to many more people. But it's also when you see, if you're able-bodied and you see a wheelchair ramp, it sends a message about who matters and who doesn't.

Fresh Air
The Secret History Of The Rape Kit

Things like that, yeah. And I've always been obsessed with the wheelchair ramp because... It's an invention. It's an idea that obviously makes buildings accessible to many more people. But it's also when you see, if you're able-bodied and you see a wheelchair ramp, it sends a message about who matters and who doesn't.

Fresh Air
The Secret History Of The Rape Kit

You know, who matters, who's allowed to be in the building, who should be in the building, who's important. And I think that, you know, design and the designs, the stuff all around us is always sending us those messages about who's important, who should matter, who could matter. And unfortunately, too often, I think they send the wrong messages.

Fresh Air
The Secret History Of The Rape Kit

You know, who matters, who's allowed to be in the building, who should be in the building, who's important. And I think that, you know, design and the designs, the stuff all around us is always sending us those messages about who's important, who should matter, who could matter. And unfortunately, too often, I think they send the wrong messages.

Fresh Air
The Secret History Of The Rape Kit

You know, who matters, who's allowed to be in the building, who should be in the building, who's important. And I think that, you know, design and the designs, the stuff all around us is always sending us those messages about who's important, who should matter, who could matter. And unfortunately, too often, I think they send the wrong messages.

Fresh Air
The Secret History Of The Rape Kit

But I was really interested in the rape kit because... As a system, as an evidence collection method, it's really brilliant, but it also sends a signal that we can solve sexual assault cases, that there can be evidence, that it's not all just a he said, she said. And if you're not able to get the evidence, maybe you're just not working hard enough.

Fresh Air
The Secret History Of The Rape Kit

But I was really interested in the rape kit because... As a system, as an evidence collection method, it's really brilliant, but it also sends a signal that we can solve sexual assault cases, that there can be evidence, that it's not all just a he said, she said. And if you're not able to get the evidence, maybe you're just not working hard enough.

Fresh Air
The Secret History Of The Rape Kit

But I was really interested in the rape kit because... As a system, as an evidence collection method, it's really brilliant, but it also sends a signal that we can solve sexual assault cases, that there can be evidence, that it's not all just a he said, she said. And if you're not able to get the evidence, maybe you're just not working hard enough.

Fresh Air
The Secret History Of The Rape Kit

It's really, really similar. It still looks a lot like that. But as I investigated and talked to people, I became a lot more aware of the problems that do need to be solved and the fact that, you know, this kit was designed in the 70s in a completely analog era when people were, you know, talking on rotary phones and DNA identification and the Internet didn't exist.

Fresh Air
The Secret History Of The Rape Kit

It's really, really similar. It still looks a lot like that. But as I investigated and talked to people, I became a lot more aware of the problems that do need to be solved and the fact that, you know, this kit was designed in the 70s in a completely analog era when people were, you know, talking on rotary phones and DNA identification and the Internet didn't exist.

Fresh Air
The Secret History Of The Rape Kit

It's really, really similar. It still looks a lot like that. But as I investigated and talked to people, I became a lot more aware of the problems that do need to be solved and the fact that, you know, this kit was designed in the 70s in a completely analog era when people were, you know, talking on rotary phones and DNA identification and the Internet didn't exist.

Fresh Air
The Secret History Of The Rape Kit

So I would love to see survivors and nurses and lawyers and technologists and everybody coming together to really talk about how we could make the kit now much more resilient, what we could do with all these new tools we have. There's so much evidence now that's digital. Like, how could that be brought together with the biological evidence?