Pagan Kennedy

She was traveling all around the country and Guiding people in best practices about how to set up really good evidence systems. So she was just all over the place. And I think that was sort of the beginning of the end for her.

She was traveling all around the country and Guiding people in best practices about how to set up really good evidence systems. So she was just all over the place. And I think that was sort of the beginning of the end for her.

She was traveling all around the country and Guiding people in best practices about how to set up really good evidence systems. So she was just all over the place. And I think that was sort of the beginning of the end for her.

Yeah, actually, it was Cynthia Gary who was, you know, Marty's collaborator in the early days who made me think about that first. And Cynthia pointed out that the whole point of this project was to have a survivor experience. You know, stand up and tell her story, but be backed up in a courtroom and be believed.

Yeah, actually, it was Cynthia Gary who was, you know, Marty's collaborator in the early days who made me think about that first. And Cynthia pointed out that the whole point of this project was to have a survivor experience. You know, stand up and tell her story, but be backed up in a courtroom and be believed.

Yeah, actually, it was Cynthia Gary who was, you know, Marty's collaborator in the early days who made me think about that first. And Cynthia pointed out that the whole point of this project was to have a survivor experience. You know, stand up and tell her story, but be backed up in a courtroom and be believed.

And she would be backed up by a person, a nurse or doctor in a white lab coat and a kit with seals on it that looked super official. And so there was a kind of theater element to showing the jury that you had collected evidence. Evidence could be semen or blood or pictures of the wounds. And you'd done it very, very carefully.

And she would be backed up by a person, a nurse or doctor in a white lab coat and a kit with seals on it that looked super official. And so there was a kind of theater element to showing the jury that you had collected evidence. Evidence could be semen or blood or pictures of the wounds. And you'd done it very, very carefully.

And she would be backed up by a person, a nurse or doctor in a white lab coat and a kit with seals on it that looked super official. And so there was a kind of theater element to showing the jury that you had collected evidence. Evidence could be semen or blood or pictures of the wounds. And you'd done it very, very carefully.

And it couldn't be faked because there was so much suspicion that the survivor would be lying. So it was very much about that, about sort of, you know, at a time when juries would be very oriented against an accuser, showing that there was a whole group of experts who were behind her.

And it couldn't be faked because there was so much suspicion that the survivor would be lying. So it was very much about that, about sort of, you know, at a time when juries would be very oriented against an accuser, showing that there was a whole group of experts who were behind her.

And it couldn't be faked because there was so much suspicion that the survivor would be lying. So it was very much about that, about sort of, you know, at a time when juries would be very oriented against an accuser, showing that there was a whole group of experts who were behind her.

Yeah. So there were limited things you could do. You could look at somebody's blood type. Obviously, that would rule out some people, but it wouldn't be very precise at all. There was sometimes some particular protein or something particular to one person that you might be able to really narrow down the field in terms of looking at semen or blood.

Yeah. So there were limited things you could do. You could look at somebody's blood type. Obviously, that would rule out some people, but it wouldn't be very precise at all. There was sometimes some particular protein or something particular to one person that you might be able to really narrow down the field in terms of looking at semen or blood.

Yeah. So there were limited things you could do. You could look at somebody's blood type. Obviously, that would rule out some people, but it wouldn't be very precise at all. There was sometimes some particular protein or something particular to one person that you might be able to really narrow down the field in terms of looking at semen or blood.

But a lot of it would be looking at the survivor's body of what bruises did she have and her clothes. They were collecting whatever they could off of her body that might connect it to a scene of the crime. And they were pretty much flying blind, but trying to work with what they had

But a lot of it would be looking at the survivor's body of what bruises did she have and her clothes. They were collecting whatever they could off of her body that might connect it to a scene of the crime. And they were pretty much flying blind, but trying to work with what they had

But a lot of it would be looking at the survivor's body of what bruises did she have and her clothes. They were collecting whatever they could off of her body that might connect it to a scene of the crime. And they were pretty much flying blind, but trying to work with what they had

She was, from day one, she was very clear that part of the point of this was to clear the names of men who were falsely accused. And in the 80s, when she was sort of beginning to leave the stage, that was something she was outspoken about. But I would say that this is something that I feel people aren't aware enough of, that one of the things that's really important

She was, from day one, she was very clear that part of the point of this was to clear the names of men who were falsely accused. And in the 80s, when she was sort of beginning to leave the stage, that was something she was outspoken about. But I would say that this is something that I feel people aren't aware enough of, that one of the things that's really important