Palmer Luckey

started when I was about 14 years old, combining retro technology and modern technology to build these kind of tributes that bring the best of both worlds.

So we make, for example, something called the Mod Retrochromatic.

Think of it as the ultimate tribute to the Nintendo Game Boy.

It's a Game Boy

cartridge-compatible console that has an aluminum-magnesium shell.

Instead of a plastic window over the screen, it has a lab-grown sapphire crystal window.

It's the largest sapphire crystal window of any product ever, way bigger than you would typically see on like a Rolex or something, because I've got to cover an entire screen.

We're also building a new console called the ModRetro M64, which plays Nintendo 64 games.

Think of it, again, as like the ultimate Nintendo 64.

What would it look like if the Nintendo 64 were built with no

Money is no object, the ultimate thing.

And we've got some other new stuff coming down the pipe as well.

But I've been coming to CES for 17 years now.

First year I came was 2010.

I think I was 16 or 17 years old at the time.

I had to use a fake ID to get into the show because you had to be an adult and you had to be industry.

So I just had a fake business card and a fake ID and I pretended to be from a different company.

Now I'm coming with a real ID and with a real company and I'm seeing all my friends from the VR days, all my friends from the retro days, and of course, a lot of defense presence here too.

Mod Retro V. Mod Retro is never going to be as big as Apple.

It's never going to be as... How big is it currently?