Pam Belluck

Yeah, so that case is from Louisiana and it's a criminal case that was brought in January of this year. And in that case, a grand jury in Louisiana indicted Dr. Carpenter on charges of providing abortion-inducing drugs. And, you know, as with the Texas case, we really don't know a lot of details about the Louisiana case.

Yeah, so that case is from Louisiana and it's a criminal case that was brought in January of this year. And in that case, a grand jury in Louisiana indicted Dr. Carpenter on charges of providing abortion-inducing drugs. And, you know, as with the Texas case, we really don't know a lot of details about the Louisiana case.

The description of what happened is coming directly from authorities in the states themselves. So it's just worth noting that they are painting a picture of how these cases unfolded in a What the district attorney in Louisiana has said is that there was a teenager, someone under 18. Her mother helped her order abortion pills. It turned out that Dr. Carpenter was the prescriber.

The description of what happened is coming directly from authorities in the states themselves. So it's just worth noting that they are painting a picture of how these cases unfolded in a What the district attorney in Louisiana has said is that there was a teenager, someone under 18. Her mother helped her order abortion pills. It turned out that Dr. Carpenter was the prescriber.

and mailed those pills. And the district attorney says that the teenager was sort of pressed by her mother to take the abortion pills. And then at some point, the teenager called 911 and was taken to a hospital. We don't really know why. And that's where authorities learned that she had taken abortion pills.

and mailed those pills. And the district attorney says that the teenager was sort of pressed by her mother to take the abortion pills. And then at some point, the teenager called 911 and was taken to a hospital. We don't really know why. And that's where authorities learned that she had taken abortion pills.

Dr. Carpenter has been indicted for providing this medication. And the mother of the teenager has also been indicted and has pleaded not guilty.

Dr. Carpenter has been indicted for providing this medication. And the mother of the teenager has also been indicted and has pleaded not guilty.

So when one person in one state is indicted by another state, then that state that's indicted them tries to extradite them, tries to get them to come in and face the criminal charges in court because otherwise that case can't proceed. You know, criminal cases, different from civil cases, the defendant has to be there.

So when one person in one state is indicted by another state, then that state that's indicted them tries to extradite them, tries to get them to come in and face the criminal charges in court because otherwise that case can't proceed. You know, criminal cases, different from civil cases, the defendant has to be there.

So if she doesn't show up and they don't try to force her to show up, then it won't proceed. Louisiana has done that. They've issued an extradition warrant.

So if she doesn't show up and they don't try to force her to show up, then it won't proceed. Louisiana has done that. They've issued an extradition warrant.

Exactly.

Exactly.

New York's governor, Kathy Hochul, has made this a real strong point.

New York's governor, Kathy Hochul, has made this a real strong point.

She said, no way, no how, we are not sending Dr. Carpenter to Louisiana. So that's where the case stands at the moment. Again, sort of a standoff. It's possible that Louisiana will try to go to a New York court and challenge New York's refusal to extradite, but they haven't done that yet. But it certainly sends a chilling shot across the bow to all the other jail law providers who are doing this.

She said, no way, no how, we are not sending Dr. Carpenter to Louisiana. So that's where the case stands at the moment. Again, sort of a standoff. It's possible that Louisiana will try to go to a New York court and challenge New York's refusal to extradite, but they haven't done that yet. But it certainly sends a chilling shot across the bow to all the other jail law providers who are doing this.

Yeah, I think most people expect that there will be a next step, that these are supposed to be test cases to basically try to undercut the protection of shield laws. So most people expect that Texas and or Louisiana will keep pursuing this. They will end up in federal court, possibly the Supreme Court, and they will try to say that the SHIELD laws are unconstitutional.

Yeah, I think most people expect that there will be a next step, that these are supposed to be test cases to basically try to undercut the protection of shield laws. So most people expect that Texas and or Louisiana will keep pursuing this. They will end up in federal court, possibly the Supreme Court, and they will try to say that the SHIELD laws are unconstitutional.