Paris Lilly

Anyway, Paris, always a joy to hang out with you. I'm glad that we've squashed the beef.

So, yeah, hang out with us all day. We're doing Gamescast. After that, we're going to be doing the super fun movie game stream with Roger, Nick, and Joey. You're going to want to see that. But until next time, I love you all. Goodbye.

So, yeah, hang out with us all day. We're doing Gamescast. After that, we're going to be doing the super fun movie game stream with Roger, Nick, and Joey. You're going to want to see that. But until next time, I love you all. Goodbye.

There he is. Now you hear me. I think I'm watching and I'm like, oh my God, I want to jump in and say something. I think you hit on a lot of it. But and I have to bring PlayStation into this for a second. Part of what's happening right now is growth is these are businesses. They got to make money. Right.

There he is. Now you hear me. I think I'm watching and I'm like, oh my God, I want to jump in and say something. I think you hit on a lot of it. But and I have to bring PlayStation into this for a second. Part of what's happening right now is growth is these are businesses. They got to make money. Right.

Clearly, Microsoft has invested a lot of money into their gaming division that is driving a lot of this. I think what Tim said about Game Pass factors into this as well. Game Pass is. did not become the thing that they thought it was going to be. So now you got to subsidize it. You got to continue to grow. You got to find other avenues to get people to play games.

Clearly, Microsoft has invested a lot of money into their gaming division that is driving a lot of this. I think what Tim said about Game Pass factors into this as well. Game Pass is. did not become the thing that they thought it was going to be. So now you got to subsidize it. You got to continue to grow. You got to find other avenues to get people to play games.

And the only reason I want to bring PlayStation into it is this. How many copies has Astro Bot sold? Great question.

And the only reason I want to bring PlayStation into it is this. How many copies has Astro Bot sold? Great question.

Right, and the reason I'm even bringing that up is it obviously just one game in a year. A lot of us thought that it would, but it only sold 2 million copies for the sake of this argument, right? But there's 60-plus million PlayStation 5s out there. People aren't buying as many console-exclusive games as they used to be.

Right, and the reason I'm even bringing that up is it obviously just one game in a year. A lot of us thought that it would, but it only sold 2 million copies for the sake of this argument, right? But there's 60-plus million PlayStation 5s out there. People aren't buying as many console-exclusive games as they used to be.

I don't think GastroBots have all a fair example to use for that, though, compared to God of War.

I don't think GastroBots have all a fair example to use for that, though, compared to God of War.

I'm glad you said that. What about Ratchet and Clank? What about Returnal? You're using all the bad examples, though. I just said Ragnarok. Ragnarok. Ragnarok sold incredible. Did it? Yeah. What's the number on Ragnarok? Wasn't it like 9 million? Is that really enough? That's my point. This is what I'm saying. The fact that you have that many consoles out in the wild and that's your attach rate.

I'm glad you said that. What about Ratchet and Clank? What about Returnal? You're using all the bad examples, though. I just said Ragnarok. Ragnarok. Ragnarok sold incredible. Did it? Yeah. What's the number on Ragnarok? Wasn't it like 9 million? Is that really enough? That's my point. This is what I'm saying. The fact that you have that many consoles out in the wild and that's your attach rate.

Okay, that's a little better. But the point I'm trying to make on this overall is even if you have these critically acclaimed games and you're locking it down to one console, you're limiting yourself as far as growth goes. Xbox, as Blessing already said, they clearly don't care. They care about the console, but it's not all about the console for them. They clearly told us this. Yeah.

Okay, that's a little better. But the point I'm trying to make on this overall is even if you have these critically acclaimed games and you're locking it down to one console, you're limiting yourself as far as growth goes. Xbox, as Blessing already said, they clearly don't care. They care about the console, but it's not all about the console for them. They clearly told us this. Yeah.

They are telling us repeatedly, especially if you look at what Phil Spencer has said since we interviewed him and over the past year, they're going beyond the console. Their marketing now is beyond the console. They're like, we'll give you a console if that's where you want to play. If you don't want to play there, here's the PC, here's the cloud. We'll put it on PlayStation, all of that.

They are telling us repeatedly, especially if you look at what Phil Spencer has said since we interviewed him and over the past year, they're going beyond the console. Their marketing now is beyond the console. They're like, we'll give you a console if that's where you want to play. If you don't want to play there, here's the PC, here's the cloud. We'll put it on PlayStation, all of that.

They're just trying to make money at this point. They're trying to grow. I me personally, even though I've been on X cast and all that, I would rather have quality games than worrying about the hardware because they they've told us it's not about hardware from them anymore. So that's just where they're going.