Pat Kenny

So, Jack Morgan-Jones, what have you been concentrating on?

The political matters, I'm sure.

And she was quite defiant and saying, you know, I don't feel I'm threatened, looking forward to campaigning in the by-elections.

If they don't put up a good showing in the by-elections, there could be consequences.

But, I mean, who's the pretender?

Is it, Piers?

And do you have to get the OK of Belfast if there's to be a heave against Mary Lou?

I mean, there is the issue of Mary Lou is Dublin-based and Pierce is Donegal-based.

I mean, can you see a Pierce or a Matt Carthy actually leading a government?

It doesn't look likely that that could happen.

But you have people stealing their clothes all the time.

I mean, you've got the Sock Dems stealing part of their garments.

And then on the other hand, you've Independent Ireland for those who might, I suppose, demur with the Sinn Féin policy on immigration and so on, heading in that direction.

If they don't take a seat, either or both of those seats, I mean, does that elevate the threat to Mary Lou or is she right that she is secure?

I think it does.

Isn't there always a problem when people are forever in opposition and they have to keep on making the same noises, the same speeches, which is generally not to cooperate with government.

I mean, the duty of the opposition is to oppose and to challenge and to interrogate government policies.

Yeah.

But that you kind of sound like you're repeating your bleating.

Do you know what I mean?