Pat LaLama

His words were that Robert didn't make a move without her instruction. Robert is trying to tell the jury or told the jury that she had nothing to do with it. And therein lies this double-edged sword. One killer for the prosecution, one killer for the defense. How interesting is that?

His words were that Robert didn't make a move without her instruction. Robert is trying to tell the jury or told the jury that she had nothing to do with it. And therein lies this double-edged sword. One killer for the prosecution, one killer for the defense. How interesting is that?

Okay, so the police, LAPD, deliberately put them in cells next to each other. So there's a lot of different ways they were able to monitor their conversations. And so in these conversations, some of them are phone calls, some of them are what they call overhears, where they can record them talking to each other between cell blocks. But these are actual phone calls.

Okay, so the police, LAPD, deliberately put them in cells next to each other. So there's a lot of different ways they were able to monitor their conversations. And so in these conversations, some of them are phone calls, some of them are what they call overhears, where they can record them talking to each other between cell blocks. But these are actual phone calls.

And the way they were able to do the phone calls, Deborah, is they got a third party to help put them together. Anyway, that's a that's also another long description of how this happened. But let me just tell you.

And the way they were able to do the phone calls, Deborah, is they got a third party to help put them together. Anyway, that's a that's also another long description of how this happened. But let me just tell you.

Absolutely the best. But what happened was you think now they're both arrested for murder. Right. And if she is innocent, then you wouldn't think she would keep this up. But here they are in jail professing their undying love and lust for each other.

Absolutely the best. But what happened was you think now they're both arrested for murder. Right. And if she is innocent, then you wouldn't think she would keep this up. But here they are in jail professing their undying love and lust for each other.

Oh my gosh, you haven't heard that. We can't play you the half of it. We can't redo the half of it. We can't play you. We can't show you. I mean, you'd have to go and sit in the trial every day like I did to see your own jaw drop every day listening to the undeniable passion these two had for each other.

Oh my gosh, you haven't heard that. We can't play you the half of it. We can't redo the half of it. We can't play you. We can't show you. I mean, you'd have to go and sit in the trial every day like I did to see your own jaw drop every day listening to the undeniable passion these two had for each other.

You're so gorgeous, baby. You just like me a little bit. Oh my God, I love you so much. Honestly, I've had quite a few relationships. This is different. This is supercharged.

You're so gorgeous, baby. You just like me a little bit. Oh my God, I love you so much. Honestly, I've had quite a few relationships. This is different. This is supercharged.

He's telling her, be strong, baby. I love you so much.

He's telling her, be strong, baby. I love you so much.

they're each other's home. Nobody can take that away. And that's the lustful edge of it. But what you'll find is that in this case, they also, there are recordings of them actually talking about evidence. And Deborah, that is what gave the prosecution a lot of strength because they are discussing evidence and they are expressing concern for some of the evidence.

they're each other's home. Nobody can take that away. And that's the lustful edge of it. But what you'll find is that in this case, they also, there are recordings of them actually talking about evidence. And Deborah, that is what gave the prosecution a lot of strength because they are discussing evidence and they are expressing concern for some of the evidence.

So the prosecution is arguing, well, then how is it that she didn't know anything?

So the prosecution is arguing, well, then how is it that she didn't know anything?

This is when they first got to jail. But over time, you hear in the jail what they call the overhears, where the cops are monitoring their conversations, where they really do get concerned about. about certain things. For example, how Robert's blood got into the home. And there are lies about that. So the cops are able to establish some inconsistencies and some lies because think about it.

This is when they first got to jail. But over time, you hear in the jail what they call the overhears, where the cops are monitoring their conversations, where they really do get concerned about. about certain things. For example, how Robert's blood got into the home. And there are lies about that. So the cops are able to establish some inconsistencies and some lies because think about it.