Patricia Aymà Maldonado

So they are not willing to change because the system works like this.

For years, we haven't talked with this type of companies because the system is so established that it's something that they don't fear right now.

I've listened about the lobby, the plastic lobby, just recent news from the COP30 conference.

They talk about the plastic pollution and they didn't get a commitment there.

So they have a lobby, for sure.

They control also the interests of different governments.

And if a country has petrol, they have plastic.

So it is quite a complex scenario here.

It is a system change.

So we are starting with the companies that they have a purpose on what they do.

And they are engaged on that purpose.

And then the change will come because if you want to be relevant, you have to have a very good purpose.

And sustainability is the purpose that you need to have if you want to be relevant in the future.

Yeah, so I hope we move from probing the technology to deploying it at scale.

And there are different sides.

On the bioprocess side, our goal is to multiply the capacity by orders of magnitude.

So not by building one giant plant, but by creating this network of modular facilities that can be replicated near the source of the organic waste.

So if we can concentrate these organic wastes and efficiently produce the bioplastic in big reactors in full stability, we can convert huge amounts of global waste streams into bioplastic.

And I want this technology to be a standard infrastructure.

But the real hope goes beyond our company.