Patricia Karvelas

It's in the label politics now.

Okay.

All right.

Business Daily is about to give you their take.

What they're doing is targeting a smaller group of Australians and making them pay more.

Yeah.

And that seems to me like smart Labor politics.

Which is smart, again, because they've, again, the politics, they have seen a campaign in the bush, you know, you're going after our farm, our trusts, so they're trying to neutralise those potential issues.

I want to take us to the – is it the Watto or the – how do you say it?

It's the – I'll tell you what it is because you're going to get used to it, my friends.

It's the $250 Working Australians Tax Offset, the Watto.

It is –

more ambitious than I thought it would be.

And what I mean is $250.

Look, if you go to the supermarket, that's just a shop, seriously, for a lot of families.

So I'm not sort of claiming that people are living large with this, but it is permanent.

And I said that at the beginning of the podcast.

One of the things that they're trying to do here...

is try to neutralise an argument that Labor is just jacking up taxes and then taking the money and then just spending it.

They're trying to show and demonstrate that they're giving it back and opening the door because of exactly your point that they are actually going to collect a lot more, $77 billion over the mid-term estimates, right?