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Patrick Boyle

πŸ‘€ Speaker
647 total appearances

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Prof G Markets
SpaceX Just Filed to IPO β€” The Numbers Are Ugly

VC funding is kind of drying up for this sort of stuff.

Prof G Markets
SpaceX Just Filed to IPO β€” The Numbers Are Ugly

They've, you know, this is worth a lot and they want their money back.

Prof G Markets
SpaceX Just Filed to IPO β€” The Numbers Are Ugly

On top of that, you've got big IPOs coming from OpenAI and coming from Anthropic.

Prof G Markets
SpaceX Just Filed to IPO β€” The Numbers Are Ugly

And even, you know, there's an argument, you know, that they basically want to get out first because the question is, will there be appetite here?

Prof G Markets
SpaceX Just Filed to IPO β€” The Numbers Are Ugly

You know, if investors have to liquidate something in order to buy these new things, at what point do they not necessarily want to buy the next AI thing coming out?

Prof G Markets
SpaceX Just Filed to IPO β€” The Numbers Are Ugly

So I think to a certain extent, this is a race to get this stuff out before the others.

Prof G Markets
SpaceX Just Filed to IPO β€” The Numbers Are Ugly

Well, a much lower price to start with, but that's not what's going to happen, right?

Prof G Markets
SpaceX Just Filed to IPO β€” The Numbers Are Ugly

Because, of course, this is the whole thing with investments.

Prof G Markets
SpaceX Just Filed to IPO β€” The Numbers Are Ugly

You're buying a thing, and the question is, how much are you paying for the thing?

Prof G Markets
SpaceX Just Filed to IPO β€” The Numbers Are Ugly

And this is the most out-there valuation of any company you can think of.

Prof G Markets
SpaceX Just Filed to IPO β€” The Numbers Are Ugly

It's way beyond the valuation of NVIDIA, and NVIDIA is hugely profitable with massive margins.

Prof G Markets
SpaceX Just Filed to IPO β€” The Numbers Are Ugly

SpaceX just isn't.

Prof G Markets
SpaceX Just Filed to IPO β€” The Numbers Are Ugly

It's a money furnace, right?

Prof G Markets
SpaceX Just Filed to IPO β€” The Numbers Are Ugly

Especially with all this...

Prof G Markets
SpaceX Just Filed to IPO β€” The Numbers Are Ugly

you know, XAI, the AI company, you know, I think he paid $250 billion for it, like SpaceX bought that from Elon Musk.

Prof G Markets
SpaceX Just Filed to IPO β€” The Numbers Are Ugly

Then within a few weeks, he announced that the tech stack within XAI was not working, basically.

Prof G Markets
SpaceX Just Filed to IPO β€” The Numbers Are Ugly

It wasn't very good, and it had to be rebuilt from the ground up.

Prof G Markets
SpaceX Just Filed to IPO β€” The Numbers Are Ugly

And he said, well, that happened with Tesla as well.

Prof G Markets
SpaceX Just Filed to IPO β€” The Numbers Are Ugly

And it's like, yeah, but you just got...

Prof G Markets
SpaceX Just Filed to IPO β€” The Numbers Are Ugly

people to pay 250 billion dollars for this right they bought it from you um and so you know this is uh you know the the thing is would i bet on the price falling i mean in the long term yes just because i think it's you know the the this sort of uh gravity can only be um