Patrick Broe

That's what I mean.

He is open to new ways of racing, new ways of thinking, which you probably can't see from the outside.

So...

Yeah, I think he can make a big impact at Trek, but is the environment at Trek going to allow that with, as you said, six different people just inserted into one new management structure?

No, me either.

Because head of performance, you have literally changed the three key positions.

Head of performance, which is literally coach the riders on how to be a cyclist and train.

I agree.

There should be uniform roles.

Make it simpler.

Also, it's a coup for them because yeah, now Mads Pedersen in the classics, he has the DS that just won Roubaix in the car.

I'd say that's a plus for in the car as well.

And now let's talk about Visma Benji.

So there's been Moraine Zaman left two or three years ago.

Then the new management structure was created.

Then...

Martijn left to Ajax around the same time.

Then Tim Heemskerk has left as well.

He was the coach of Vingegaard and Jorgensen.

And so we'll see.