Patrick Enzinger

If we're talking about numbers, we're about like 40 to 50K MRR now.

So it's not that big, but since we are a small team, we're only five people.

Hey folks, my guest today is Patrick Enzinger.

He's an independent designer, entrepreneur, and startup advisor with a passion for product and interface design.

In addition to more than 17 years of working with brands like the Reds Carlton, Porsche, Red Bull, and others, and multiple successful startups all over the world, he's also the founder of a healthcare company called AppointmentMed.

It's practice management software for healthcare professionals.

Patrick, you ready to take us to the top?

Yes, let's go.

All right.

Why is a forward-thinking product-led guy like you going into healthcare, a very slow, stodgy industry?

Yeah, funny that you ask.

I'm doing a lot of those industry design thingies, basically.

So I did a lot of work in the online banking industry.

I did a lot of work in the insurance industry.

And all of that is very complex and slow and old, basically.

And actually, the team that I have with Appointment now is the same team that we tried to build a startup in the financial sector back in 2011 or something like that.

How many people are on the team?

We're only five people, so it's very small and it's small by design.

I really like to keep things tight and don't want to have too much management stuff in there.

How many of the five write code?