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Patrick McKenzie

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Patrick McKenzie - How a Discord Server Saved Thousands of Lives

And then just run it on this data set that we've passively been producing.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Patrick McKenzie - How a Discord Server Saved Thousands of Lives

The sort of implicit ongoing invasion of privacy is much worse than we kind of baked into the system in 1980 when it would have been people going down to archives to look at things in microfiche to try to do this.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Patrick McKenzie - How a Discord Server Saved Thousands of Lives

Sure.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Patrick McKenzie - How a Discord Server Saved Thousands of Lives

I think this is one of the least understood things about the tech industry where we have this societal level question that is not being addressed directly, but it's being addressed by misunderstood proxy questions on...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Patrick McKenzie - How a Discord Server Saved Thousands of Lives

Taking as written that the finance industry is a branch of government in a meaningful sense.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Patrick McKenzie - How a Discord Server Saved Thousands of Lives

Should the tech industry also be a branch of government?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Patrick McKenzie - How a Discord Server Saved Thousands of Lives

And we don't ask that question directly.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Patrick McKenzie - How a Discord Server Saved Thousands of Lives

We have asked instead things like, should the tech industry be responsible for minimizing the spread of misinformation, et cetera, et cetera.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Patrick McKenzie - How a Discord Server Saved Thousands of Lives

And there was the injunction issued in a court case last year on the 4th of July, which I find oddly aesthetically motivating.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Patrick McKenzie - How a Discord Server Saved Thousands of Lives

The court case is Missouri et al versus Biden et al.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Patrick McKenzie - How a Discord Server Saved Thousands of Lives

But the argument made in the court case, which the judge accepted, which is extremely well supported by the record in front of him.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Patrick McKenzie - How a Discord Server Saved Thousands of Lives

is that various actors within the United States government puppeted the tech companies and used them as cat's paws to do, frankly, shocking violations of constitutionally protected freedoms like the freedom of speech.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Patrick McKenzie - How a Discord Server Saved Thousands of Lives

And that there were like, not on the level of we've built this, you know,

Dwarkesh Podcast
Patrick McKenzie - How a Discord Server Saved Thousands of Lives

unaccountable, hard-to-inspect system of LLMs and heuristics.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Patrick McKenzie - How a Discord Server Saved Thousands of Lives

And we started turning off a lot of people's feeds on Facebook.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Patrick McKenzie - How a Discord Server Saved Thousands of Lives

But no, there was an individual person in the White House who was sending out emails like, when are you going to address me on this tweet, guys?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Patrick McKenzie - How a Discord Server Saved Thousands of Lives

We can't have things like this anymore, et cetera, et cetera.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Patrick McKenzie - How a Discord Server Saved Thousands of Lives

Again, a feature of the United States.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Patrick McKenzie - How a Discord Server Saved Thousands of Lives

We are very good about keeping records and transparency and having a functioning legal system.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Patrick McKenzie - How a Discord Server Saved Thousands of Lives

And the record before the court is like...