Patrick McKenzie

Uh, and so that, that is one tiny part of that thesis, which I don't, uh, I've read a lot of books.

I don't necessarily endorse every word in every book that I read, but, uh, I think there is something to that.

I think another thing is that, uh, uh, you know,

there's a certain personality type cluster, I guess you would say, of people that got into tech.

And many of us, it is over-advanced that the tech industry and the pathologies of the tech industry are caused by the nerd versus jack distinction in American high schools.

Heavily over-advanced.

Amount of truth to that?

Not zero.

And like many of us were, you know,

We came up, we feel we were largely getting beaten down by the system around us.

We were not worthy, yada, yada, yada.

And then we have carry those issues into our professional lives.

And some people work their way out of it quickly.

Some do not.

Some people work and they...

for class and et cetera reasons, go to institutions like Stanford and hear from, I don't know who you hear things from if you go to Stanford, because I certainly didn't go there, but I don't know, an elder fraternity brother that says, yo bro, this is the way the world works.

You really got to negotiate when you get in the offer with, when you get in your discussion with Google, I've talked to so many brothers and they don't negotiate.

And so the ones that do make a whole lot more money.

And you're like, wow, good for that.

Most people don't like get that talk from their elder fraternity brother because they do not go to Stanford or don't have an elder fraternity brother.