Patrick O'Shaughnessy

Polymarket and Kaoshi and these markets, people are glued to their phones.

$10 million valuation today or yesterday.

Do you think that's a major threat to MGM?

No.

No, no, no.

The other person that I would argue built the modern media world with you is John Malone, who just came out with a book as well.

What was it like being around him?

How did you produce so many people that have gone on to great things?

Eisner, Dara, Dillard's Killers, as they call them.

I lost track of The Simpsons before, which I think is the most profitable show maybe ever in history.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And they thought it was stupid because it was a cartoon?

It's been running ever since, and most profitable thing ever.

Through the lens of The Simpsons, how do you think about the world of entertainment today?

It just seems like nothing like that will ever happen again.

Is Glamour gone too?

I saw these amazing photo spreads from Sun Valley in the 90s when entertainment was in its complete ascendance and blooming.

You've been to these conferences your whole life.

Does it now just feel like that center of gravity is entirely shifted to tech and the entertainment people are an afterthought?

So you got MGM dot dash Meredith was just renamed to people.