Patrick O'Shaughnessy

Nonetheless, in many ways, I hope my kids, that's even more true.

I don't want that to be a thing that...

they have to feel bad about.

I wanted to create opportunities for them to make more impact, do all sorts of things.

And so I think endlessly about my kids are younger, of course, but the ways in which I engage and interact with them and the world that I show them and the parts of my world that I invite them into and surround them by.

And I was listening to this interesting thing the other day, which was noting that it's really only been a last couple hundred years phenomenon that like a dad and his son aren't working together all the time for the son's whole life.

And now you've got this circumstance where a dad and a son or a mother and a daughter or any combination thereof aren't together for major parts of their waking lives.

Your parents did it the right way.

And so I'm curious if there's anything that you could share with myself and the other parents out there that want to like copy what works and do it for their kids, because it's obviously what we all want for our kids.

Well, one of the most fun segments of kindest thing that I've ever had.

I'm glad we expanded on it.

Zach, thanks again so much for your time.

Thank you, Patrick.

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