Patrick O'Shaughnessy

Do you think then, like, it's so interesting thinking across our conversation, how maybe the meta piece of advice is your don't be the best, be the only.

It seems like in business, in creating, in family, in career, in spirituality, this is the advice to end all advice.

I think it's amazing that the advice in the book is somehow both counterintuitive and obvious.

And just like to sum up what I take from this, it's the smartest strategy, even if you're trying to be selfish, is to be generous and unique.

And almost everyone does the opposite of those two things, which is totally bizarre.

It's also a wonderful excuse to ask you the same question now I've asked, I guess, approaching 500 times now I've asked every single guest I've ever talked to.

What is the kindest thing that anyone's ever done for you?

It was really incredibly kind.

Well, I'm so thankful for the conversation today.

I'm so thankful for all that you've written and put into the world.

Please know it affects people like me all over the place and makes us think for the better and hopefully act for the better too.

So Kevin, wonderful to meet you and thank you so much for your time.

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