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Patrick O'Shaughnessy

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
8519 total appearances

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

Obviously, you talked about some of the differences, but what's most similar between the two countries?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

What would be something that you would have put in the book if the book was designed to be a bit more like out there, speculative, unhinged?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

What was on the cutting room floor that you would talk about with your friends over beers more than you'd put it in a New York Times bestselling book?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

What feels like the very bleeding edge frontier if I were to take a month and travel around China and maybe you could pick like the four cities I would go visit to learn the most and most see the bleeding edge frontier of everything you just described?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

What does that feel like today that people might not fully appreciate?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

Of all these places or in a different city, if you were to send an envoy of U.S.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

technology entrepreneurs somewhere where when they emerged from this trip, they would be the most inspired to come back and do things differently than maybe than they were planning to, where would you send them?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

Can you compare and contrast the work ethics of the two countries?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

I'm especially curious at the very highest end, if you took America's most productive people, maybe in the technology sector, working all the time to build AI companies or whatever, and compared it to a similar set in China, how the two compare and contrast, especially at the very high end?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

I'd love to ask some investing questions as an investing audience.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

If I were to shrink down the investing debate about China to a single common debate, it would be around ByteDance because it's a company that produces crazy amounts of free cash flow.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

Its equity trades at a tiny fraction of that free cash flow in terms of a multiple than it would if it would just take the exact same financials and put it in America.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

It might be, I don't know, 10 times more valuable or something like this.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

And so people use this as an example of like, what do you think about ByteDance?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

And when they're really asking, what do you think about the opportunity to invest in China?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

And maybe this is the right time to talk about this sort of kneecapping that happened several years ago around some of the Chinese internet giants, what happened and why, and what that tells us about the party and beyond.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

But I'd love just your general framing on how to think about

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

these companies, which sound really interesting and fantastic, which have produced lots of free cash flow in some cases, as an investment opportunity or not, or it just belongs in like the too hard pile for American investors.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

By dense trades for 10 times your cash flow.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]

Yeah.