Patrick

I don't know, was it Anne or Sandra that said, no, he's not going to be okay because James is dead.

And then it was just, I was stood there going, what?

And I said, you can't be serious, Sandra, you're wrong.

And she said, no, no, no, I'm telling you, he's dead.

And like it was traumatic on everybody, like, you know.

He was close to her, we were close to him, and he was our big brother, like, that we played football with and messed around with and he got us into trouble, like.

And he had, you know, when you think about it, he had so many hopes and dreams as well that was snatched from him.

That was the first time we'd ever known what real heartbreak and real sadness was.

So it was such a big shock for us and a huge adjustment, especially in our house because he lived there.

So all of a sudden we went from him living in, you know, being in our house and having his own bedroom to James being gone and...

We were trying to adjust ourselves and find our own dynamics in the house.

He was gone, but he wasn't gone in the sense that he'd moved out and met a girlfriend and living in Ballina or living wherever.

He was behind in the graveyard and that was very, very hard, very, very traumatic, especially for my mother and father.

So that would have been the June.

And then the July and August, we would have got our summer holidays.

And September, we went back to school.

And I remember us going down, the four, the five of us.

And it was a really foggy, foggy night to Killala.

Because it would have been unusual, we had got a car at that stage, shortly after James died, my dad got a car.

I can remember actually being below in the house and it was so unusual for us to be the ones to come to them instead of the other way around.