Paul Alex

So what was your first entrepreneurial venture?

And then why did you decide to go ahead and start transitioning?

Dude, I love that because it goes back to reframing your mind, right?

to knowing what you're capable of doing.

And very similar story like yours, when I jumped in ATMs, I was in an environment, and as you know, law enforcement, because you chimed in on this, sometimes law enforcement

It can be dramatic, dude.

It's almost like high school, right?

Just a little bit.

It's almost like high school, dude.

People are talking.

Let's say if you were to bring it up to a coworker or your buddy that you're in the squad car with, and all of a sudden they're like, ATMs, what type of scam are you trying to do, right?

They're so negative about it, brother.

Exactly.

That is the first thing that someone who is comfortable will say, right?

Because they're just not used to thinking outside the box.

So when you went ahead and you actually launched that business, did you tell your wife?

Did you tell your coworkers?

Were you open about it?

Or was this something that you were just building on the side as you were still working as a law enforcement officer?

I love that.