Paul C. Brunson

They never retained us.

They let us go.

That is basically the main reason why all of these participants in these shows henceforward are contracted to an inch of their life going forward because they missed it with us.

Interesting.

They let us go.

They missed an opportunity to micromanage and take commission from anybody else from that process or from that specific process.

Yeah, because we were, you know, told.

Throughout the whole process until that moment, the losers couldn't do anything.

It was just the winners.

It was just those five people.

It was not us.

We were done and that was it.

And so when we announced that we wanted to start as a band, it was news to them.

And my fluffy...

kind of rainbow-covered memory is that when we announced it, Richard Branson was watching the TV show we were on.

I believe it was Lorraine, but Kelly said it was another one.

And he rang Lorraine or got in touch with her somehow and said that he wanted, he loved the idea of an underdog and he owned Virgin Records, V2 Records.

and would love to sign us.

And that was that day.

Oh, wow.