Paul C. Brunson

What the attraction was for Liberty, towards Liberty, we were only Liberty at the time, was that we were raw.

And that was quite evident because we didn't know when to stop talking or what not to say.

And we were on the fact that we were able to

We were able to bring our creative energy to what we put out there, which usually doesn't happen, well, doesn't happen to manufactured bands, actually.

But the press battled us and Hearsay off from the get-go, Flopstars, Wannabes, The Five Losers, and it was evident that they wanted us to fail.

And not just not not just TSA as a team, but the people around them.

And so that would have then stirred up the pot with the hearsay members in order to, you know, add fuel to the fire when they did interviews about how they were bigger and better.

And we were not so and that we were running on their court tales.

It felt really harsh.

We didn't know how to navigate it.

It felt like it wasn't the five people that we met in the audition process.

And along all of this, all I kind of wanted to do was reach out to Suzanne.

Because that's one of the people that I got really close to.

and be like, how is it?

What's it like?

I bet it's amazing.

I really wanted to share that with her.

And at no point did I see what we were doing is hanging on their coattails.

And I have to say, my skin's not...

I say it's thick, but it's really paper thin.