Paul Capsis

Because she thought, I'm fine.

This boat doesn't move.

I'm going to be really good.

Then it started, she said, for the rest of the journey right until they arrived.

And she said they were sick for the entire journey.

Her and the five children were all so ill.

I think my uncle, Charlie, the eldest, who was about 13 or 14,

He wasn't sick.

And she said he was out all day, all day long.

She does.

My mum remembers certain things about it.

She says she remembers there was a fight on the... She somehow got away from my grandmother and climbed up some stairs and found herself in this area.

And she said there were two men having a knife fight there.

And she was terrified and ran back.

She vividly remembers that.

She remembers going into Sydney Harbour.

I mean, my grandmother tells me the story that the boat initially docked.

I think it was Perth and then Melbourne.

She said, I dressed all the children up, five, and we all dressed up and there was another Maltese lady with her children all dressed up.

We got off the boat and we're all heading off into Melbourne.