Paul Conti

which is destructive.

It's the thought of, I see something that you have that I don't have, right?

And instead of me working for it or accepting that I don't have it, what I'd like to do then is bring you down, take you down to where I am, and then I'll feel better, right?

Because from the perspective of envy, it is all...

Relative.

No, I think that jealousy is a natural just part of the human phenomenon that we go through life and we see like, oh, I'd like to have that.

I think it's part of our incentives, right?

If I'm farming and I have one row of crops and I look over and I see that you're working harder and you have two and I'd like to have two, that can make me work harder to have two.

No, because I think there are things that are in us as humans, right?

So the things that just by being human, like we can, for example, feel, we can feel compassion, right?

We can feel interest, right?

We can feel jealousy in that benign sense.

Like it's all part of just being human.

If we start going from, hey, you have more crops than I have, and you know, it seems like I actually have a better life in a lot of ways than I have.

I'm going to kill you.

That's not...

that is not a progression of something benign, right?

you're right in that there's a causal, there can be a causal chain, right?

Like if I'm not feeling jealous, maybe I won't ever feel envious, right?

So you can see, okay, so it can kind of lead to, it can open gates to, huh, like how much do I dislike that you have things that I don't have, right?