Paul Conti

So if I'm feeling happy, satisfied, probably like I'm pretty far from envy land, right?

But if I'm feeling jealousy now, I'm coming kind of closer to that border, right?

And...

I still, I think there's, it's a big thing to go over the border, right?

That the border isn't a gray area, right?

There's a border to go over.

And I think that you're, I agree completely.

One, certainly about trauma, that the more trauma there is, because then the more misunderstandings there are about self and feelings that I'm not good enough.

And then that can be anger about why and who might be oppressing me.

And, you know, I hate myself and everyone else who seems to be better.

Like, so trauma can drive us in these negative directions, but we're still crossing over something, right?

Right?

So if you have the trinket and I think, that's awesome.

I want that.

I want to work harder.

You know what I could do though is I could sneak in tonight when no one's around and I could move something.

No, no way.

I don't want to do that.

Right?

But it's like I came over the border a little bit and I thought maybe that's a better way.