Paul Conti

But how do you feel gratitude?

How do you feel humility?

Those things are incompatible

with narcissism envy, right?

With really the bad pole of things that we're talking about.

And part of the reason I'm so focused in my work and really what runs through all of my thoughts about life is the impact of trauma, right?

Because trauma creates these false lessons and it walls us off from truth.

And it starts to point towards the unhealthy ways of trying to feel better about ourselves.

But we have the health in us

Two, we have those seeds of health, too, that can grow into being a steward of power and sharing power, being considerate and kind.

And we see a lot of that in the world, too, right?

It's not all just the evil.

You know, we see plenty of people who do good and who are generous of spirit.

And, you know, we have both in us, and it is, I think—

You're talking about our culture and the seeds that we sow and the climate that we set, including putting governors and boundaries.

How do we rein in or say that the more aggressive, the more envious or destructive is unacceptable, right?

How do we foster the part that's kind and considerate and reflective and slow to judge of like, hey, let's learn a little bit more.

How do we foster that?

And I think a lot of that comes back to early childhood education.

I mean, I think we don't do nearly enough to protect children.