Paul Conti

The basic techniques of like, how are we navigating forward?

Or do we just throw all those away because I can get some benefit by saying that you're bad even though what's being leveled against you is wrong, right?

Like, why?

Do I take that?

Or do I say, no, there's something more important here that we want to shepherd forward in ourselves as a culture.

And I think preventing childhood trauma and changing the ways that we educate children and adults could, again, make a sea change and maybe set us on a course towards even towards a greater likelihood of survival as a species.

The parents didn't learn it.

I'm not joking that I was mad.

Second year after medical school, how is it?

I think of things in my own life and how much shame I felt after my brother's suicide.

I was already an adult.

I was a young adult, but I felt so much shame.

I had no understanding that...

That, oh, it's a reflex to trauma, right?

To feel guilt and shame.

And that, of course, I was feeling that.

It didn't mean it was true because I felt it, but I mapped the fact that I felt ashamed to the fact that I should have felt guilty and ashamed.

And it led to some very negative things in my life that I had to sort of pull myself back from and recover from.

And like...

I didn't know that, right?