Paul Conti

Then I put my hand out and you slug me, right?

Then it's like, I better remember that, right?

But you see how that can lead into, you know, are the constructs around that.

I say, oh, people in your tribe are violent, right?

We start then to make stories around that.

But the primacy of emotion, whether it's berries or it's humans who might threaten us or it's humans we love, I think it's hard to even look at that anthropological, psychological literature to look at what's out there.

And I think the face validity, that's part of survival.

It's part of survival.

Yeah, so my response, you just said that it gives life meaning.

My response initially was going to be, it's the meaning of life, right?

Because saying, okay, emotion is about survival, that's one part, right?

And it's a very important part, right?

If we don't survive, then we're not there to have emotions, right?

So yes, it's about survival, but...

As important as that is, that's the small part of it, right?

I think it is about the meaning of life because it's about the beyond self.

And I think it relates back to what we were talking about at the very beginning and the sort of levels of emergence, right?

And when we feel love, we feel happiness because that person feels happiness, right?

There's something that's so generative, so creative about that.

Like we want to bring order to things and happiness is consistent with simplicity, right?