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Paul Dix

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
750 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
Building the machine that builds the machine (Interview)

You know, compare that to the software delivery pipeline where code is only like one portion of it.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
Building the machine that builds the machine (Interview)

Right.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
Building the machine that builds the machine (Interview)

And depending on who you are, you think it's either larger or smaller as a proportion of what it takes to actually like deliver a software product to customers and put it in production and all this other stuff.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
Building the machine that builds the machine (Interview)

Right.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
Building the machine that builds the machine (Interview)

And basically my thought then and still now really is like code's easy now, code's cheap.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
Building the machine that builds the machine (Interview)

Like you can produce so much code, like you can produce more code than you could ever have time to review or want to put into a product or get into production or support.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
Building the machine that builds the machine (Interview)

So what do you have to do?

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
Building the machine that builds the machine (Interview)

You have to optimize the other parts of software delivery, right?

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
Building the machine that builds the machine (Interview)

You have to optimize how you test and verify this stuff, how you gather requirements, how you have product teams get it and validate that has the user experience that you want, how your support teams actually support it.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
Building the machine that builds the machine (Interview)

The interesting thing.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
Building the machine that builds the machine (Interview)

So in the initial, I'd say like June, July, August or June, July, I was basically still in the mode where I had, you know, cloud code running and I have one session and I'm

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
Building the machine that builds the machine (Interview)

focused there.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
Building the machine that builds the machine (Interview)

And basically what enabled me to do is do all the other kind of work that I have to do as like an executive and leader within my company, right?

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
Building the machine that builds the machine (Interview)

It's interesting because as a CTO of a fairly established company, like still obviously a startup, but usually CTOs aren't actually writing code, but I have been for the past

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
Building the machine that builds the machine (Interview)

two years on this new version of the database.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
Building the machine that builds the machine (Interview)

I've been very in the weeds, but I still have leadership requirements, things I need to do.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
Building the machine that builds the machine (Interview)

So basically in June, July, I was like, okay, I can keep these agents going and then do other stuff on the side while they're working.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
Building the machine that builds the machine (Interview)

And then I got to the point where I'm like, okay, well, maybe I can actually run another agent at the same time and pursue a side quest.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
Building the machine that builds the machine (Interview)

I thought like, man, agentic coding is basically the age of the side quest because you can just like start it on something else and get it going and see what happens.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
Building the machine that builds the machine (Interview)

And I had a number of side quests that I pursued over the last, I would say like four months, five months.