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Paul Frazee

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356 total appearances

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Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

Yeah, I mean, generally speaking, it's funny, honestly. Like, moderation is a tough job, as you might expect. And things like that... I don't know why nobody else has done it before because, gosh, anytime people can fix the problem for themselves, that actually makes our lives easier. So we have a pretty good incentive to do this sort of stuff.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

Yeah, I mean, generally speaking, it's funny, honestly. Like, moderation is a tough job, as you might expect. And things like that... I don't know why nobody else has done it before because, gosh, anytime people can fix the problem for themselves, that actually makes our lives easier. So we have a pretty good incentive to do this sort of stuff.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

Removing the quote posts, that one was like, we didn't do it straight away, but that was one that I had personally right from the get-go. Because we all know that the quote dunking is one of the big generators of just some of the most painful experiences on...

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

Removing the quote posts, that one was like, we didn't do it straight away, but that was one that I had personally right from the get-go. Because we all know that the quote dunking is one of the big generators of just some of the most painful experiences on...

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

twitter at least and i imagine anywhere else that has a similar dynamic and so the detaching a quote post is essentially like it it's it just takes away whatever the quote quoting post is it just detaches it it's just whatever they've quoted it now just says content no longer available and so now you know of course what people do instead is they'll screenshot whatever it was that they originally of course of course they will but that's actually still better because

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

twitter at least and i imagine anywhere else that has a similar dynamic and so the detaching a quote post is essentially like it it's it just takes away whatever the quote quoting post is it just detaches it it's just whatever they've quoted it now just says content no longer available and so now you know of course what people do instead is they'll screenshot whatever it was that they originally of course of course they will but that's actually still better because

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

the things that you got to think about with large-scale social spaces is friction friction matters so much it matters so much and when you can introduce points of friction you're actually able to because it is such a game of numbers you actually will dramatically reduce bad outcomes and If you can just slow people down.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

the things that you got to think about with large-scale social spaces is friction friction matters so much it matters so much and when you can introduce points of friction you're actually able to because it is such a game of numbers you actually will dramatically reduce bad outcomes and If you can just slow people down.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

And the reason that the quote posts are so painful whenever they're quote dunks is that it sends a horde of people with one tap into the replies to start dogging you for whatever it is that you're getting dunked for. And honestly, if you've ever... I've witnessed a friend of mine get a really aggressive raid army kind of directed at them with a quote tweet back in, I want to say, 2017.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

And the reason that the quote posts are so painful whenever they're quote dunks is that it sends a horde of people with one tap into the replies to start dogging you for whatever it is that you're getting dunked for. And honestly, if you've ever... I've witnessed a friend of mine get a really aggressive raid army kind of directed at them with a quote tweet back in, I want to say, 2017.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

Well, we didn't make them public for that reason. I'll start. But actually, the blocks are, mutes are private, blocks are public. The reason that is, is actually kind of a limitation of the design of the protocol because you need the blocks to be public for the applications and really all applications to be able to respect them.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

Well, we didn't make them public for that reason. I'll start. But actually, the blocks are, mutes are private, blocks are public. The reason that is, is actually kind of a limitation of the design of the protocol because you need the blocks to be public for the applications and really all applications to be able to respect them.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

And so you can do the mutes privately because only the application needs to know. It's just filtering things to the recipient, but the blocks kind of had to get broadcast.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

And so you can do the mutes privately because only the application needs to know. It's just filtering things to the recipient, but the blocks kind of had to get broadcast.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

And you could come up with a privacy scheme for that where you just give the blocks to the applications in the world, but there's no well-defined set of applications without creating some kind of a organization which has like membership. And at that point, you're essentially starting to create a cartel around the protocol.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

And you could come up with a privacy scheme for that where you just give the blocks to the applications in the world, but there's no well-defined set of applications without creating some kind of a organization which has like membership. And at that point, you're essentially starting to create a cartel around the protocol.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

And maybe that's where all this goes someday, but for now we're not about to start that action. So we just decided, you know what, we can't find a better way to do blocks. They're going to have to be public. So that's why they're public. That said, there's a lot of other interesting things about blocks and the fact that we implemented what we call moderation lists.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

And maybe that's where all this goes someday, but for now we're not about to start that action. So we just decided, you know what, we can't find a better way to do blocks. They're going to have to be public. So that's why they're public. That said, there's a lot of other interesting things about blocks and the fact that we implemented what we call moderation lists.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

So these are lists that you can mute or block. implemented that pretty early on, again, as a part of the application's kind of decentralized moderation. And we also made blocks really aggressive. Sometimes people call them the nuclear block. Where not only do they sort of like in Twitter, as I recall, it would sort of freeze the interactions between you two.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

So these are lists that you can mute or block. implemented that pretty early on, again, as a part of the application's kind of decentralized moderation. And we also made blocks really aggressive. Sometimes people call them the nuclear block. Where not only do they sort of like in Twitter, as I recall, it would sort of freeze the interactions between you two.