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Paul Frazee

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356 total appearances

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Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

So you had like key management problems and you would also have, uh, it was all local first, all these projects. So like you would have device synchronicity and like, um, essentially like you'd have to get them like CRDT territory to just make a post. It felt like rocket science to try to implement a content section. Yeah. It was, it was very complex software that we were messing with. Yeah.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

So you had like key management problems and you would also have, uh, it was all local first, all these projects. So like you would have device synchronicity and like, um, essentially like you'd have to get them like CRDT territory to just make a post. It felt like rocket science to try to implement a content section. Yeah. It was, it was very complex software that we were messing with. Yeah.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

Well, like the... One that we knew for sure was what we call account portability. And then that one comes to mind first because it has to do with like why you bother with peer-to-peer in the first place.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

Well, like the... One that we knew for sure was what we call account portability. And then that one comes to mind first because it has to do with like why you bother with peer-to-peer in the first place.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

You're trying to turn the services that you use into something that is actually like, oh God, I'm going to say it, fungible, that you could actually replace a hosting service or like an application service, but keep all your data. And we knew that was one of the really interesting properties of peer-to-peer because like, you know, their client side, right?

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

You're trying to turn the services that you use into something that is actually like, oh God, I'm going to say it, fungible, that you could actually replace a hosting service or like an application service, but keep all your data. And we knew that was one of the really interesting properties of peer-to-peer because like, you know, their client side, right?

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

So like your storage and your signing keys were being kept on your device. And so the first thing we sort of figured out was, okay, how can you take advantage of using a server, but like maintain that ability to like adversarially move away from a server. And that's what the entire cop portability system is for.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

So like your storage and your signing keys were being kept on your device. And so the first thing we sort of figured out was, okay, how can you take advantage of using a server, but like maintain that ability to like adversarially move away from a server. And that's what the entire cop portability system is for.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

And that was a pretty big move forward because using a lot of the same techniques, but putting it on the server and not losing those properties was like the, kind of the biggest like scale and ease of use unlock that we had throughout the whole system compared to our previous work. We knew we wanted to keep that.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

And that was a pretty big move forward because using a lot of the same techniques, but putting it on the server and not losing those properties was like the, kind of the biggest like scale and ease of use unlock that we had throughout the whole system compared to our previous work. We knew we wanted to keep that.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

The other thing that we wanted to keep for sure was what is now starting to get called a shared heap model, this notion of an open broadcast of all of the public data so they can be repurposed, because that was a pretty big design element that we had landed on in the peer-to-peer stuff that we'd been doing about how to build these large-scale applications, is this notion of...

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

The other thing that we wanted to keep for sure was what is now starting to get called a shared heap model, this notion of an open broadcast of all of the public data so they can be repurposed, because that was a pretty big design element that we had landed on in the peer-to-peer stuff that we'd been doing about how to build these large-scale applications, is this notion of...

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

It works actually quite a bit like the web where it's almost like everybody's publishing JSON of like posts and their profile and their likes and stuff like that. And then you just like aggregate them in the applications. And that's how you build out an application.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

It works actually quite a bit like the web where it's almost like everybody's publishing JSON of like posts and their profile and their likes and stuff like that. And then you just like aggregate them in the applications. And that's how you build out an application.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

We knew we wanted to keep that because that's what makes it possible to build other applications without some kind of a hard binding to the hosting. So you're really separating the hosting and the application layer. And that maintains that hackability and like capacity to repurpose these applications in interesting ways. Those are probably the two that come to mind.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

We knew we wanted to keep that because that's what makes it possible to build other applications without some kind of a hard binding to the hosting. So you're really separating the hosting and the application layer. And that maintains that hackability and like capacity to repurpose these applications in interesting ways. Those are probably the two that come to mind.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

I don't know the exact timeline. I know it got a lot more turned off recently. Yeah. More turned off.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

I don't know the exact timeline. I know it got a lot more turned off recently. Yeah. More turned off.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

It's super cool, yeah. And that's also what a lot of people have started to play with first, because it's just so obviously cool. Like, okay, what can I do with this? It's cool in two fronts, actually, because actually, it's really like you're just getting into the innards of our data center, because this is the backbone. You normally...

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

It's super cool, yeah. And that's also what a lot of people have started to play with first, because it's just so obviously cool. Like, okay, what can I do with this? It's cool in two fronts, actually, because actually, it's really like you're just getting into the innards of our data center, because this is the backbone. You normally...