Paul Hawken

However, having said that, you can promote technologies that may make sense from a financial point of view that don't make any sense in terms of science. And one of those is carbon capture. There's a direct DAC, you know, And the idea is that you can suck the air, you can, down, and there's four parts of CO2, right, per 10,000 parts.

And you separate that out, and then you've got the CO2, and now you have to separate the C from the oxygen, you know, get the carbon. And then you liquefy it and then you pump it somewhere where there's a geological formation and you put it there and you captured it and somehow this is the solution. What's wrong with that picture?

And you separate that out, and then you've got the CO2, and now you have to separate the C from the oxygen, you know, get the carbon. And then you liquefy it and then you pump it somewhere where there's a geological formation and you put it there and you captured it and somehow this is the solution. What's wrong with that picture?

And you separate that out, and then you've got the CO2, and now you have to separate the C from the oxygen, you know, get the carbon. And then you liquefy it and then you pump it somewhere where there's a geological formation and you put it there and you captured it and somehow this is the solution. What's wrong with that picture?

picture is that the reason co2 is in the air is called entropy we all studied it second law of thermodynamics energy only goes one direction if i burn something you get ash right you don't can't make a log out of ash you make ash out of a log co2 is entropy from burning coal gas and oil and wood Right. So what are we going to do?

picture is that the reason co2 is in the air is called entropy we all studied it second law of thermodynamics energy only goes one direction if i burn something you get ash right you don't can't make a log out of ash you make ash out of a log co2 is entropy from burning coal gas and oil and wood Right. So what are we going to do?

picture is that the reason co2 is in the air is called entropy we all studied it second law of thermodynamics energy only goes one direction if i burn something you get ash right you don't can't make a log out of ash you make ash out of a log co2 is entropy from burning coal gas and oil and wood Right. So what are we going to do?

We're going to set up these enormous machines, by the way, they're really huge, you know, that are basically sucking, separating, you know, liquefying and pumping. Well, that takes energy. Well, where's the energy gonna come from? Well, they're saying it should, renewables will come from renewables, solar and wind, okay? Solar and wind also have a footprint.

We're going to set up these enormous machines, by the way, they're really huge, you know, that are basically sucking, separating, you know, liquefying and pumping. Well, that takes energy. Well, where's the energy gonna come from? Well, they're saying it should, renewables will come from renewables, solar and wind, okay? Solar and wind also have a footprint.

We're going to set up these enormous machines, by the way, they're really huge, you know, that are basically sucking, separating, you know, liquefying and pumping. Well, that takes energy. Well, where's the energy gonna come from? Well, they're saying it should, renewables will come from renewables, solar and wind, okay? Solar and wind also have a footprint.

It's not like they're free, it's not free energy. They have a big footprint to make a solar panel. They don't last 20, 25 years. You know, wind turbines, they have the wind turbine problem, the blades, no one knows what to do with the old blades, okay? It takes a lot of energy to make a wind turbine, all right? So that creates entropy. If you use energy, there's entropy.

It's not like they're free, it's not free energy. They have a big footprint to make a solar panel. They don't last 20, 25 years. You know, wind turbines, they have the wind turbine problem, the blades, no one knows what to do with the old blades, okay? It takes a lot of energy to make a wind turbine, all right? So that creates entropy. If you use energy, there's entropy.

It's not like they're free, it's not free energy. They have a big footprint to make a solar panel. They don't last 20, 25 years. You know, wind turbines, they have the wind turbine problem, the blades, no one knows what to do with the old blades, okay? It takes a lot of energy to make a wind turbine, all right? So that creates entropy. If you use energy, there's entropy.

That's, again, second law, inviolable. So what we're saying is we're going to use entropy to cure entropy. It's like, uh-uh, not possible. It's simply not possible. You know, and so to me, that'd be like saying, like, you're a rancher and you have a lot of cattle and, you know, and looking at all these cow patties on your pasture and going, you know, let's make a cow out of that cow patty.

That's, again, second law, inviolable. So what we're saying is we're going to use entropy to cure entropy. It's like, uh-uh, not possible. It's simply not possible. You know, and so to me, that'd be like saying, like, you're a rancher and you have a lot of cattle and, you know, and looking at all these cow patties on your pasture and going, you know, let's make a cow out of that cow patty.

That's, again, second law, inviolable. So what we're saying is we're going to use entropy to cure entropy. It's like, uh-uh, not possible. It's simply not possible. You know, and so to me, that'd be like saying, like, you're a rancher and you have a lot of cattle and, you know, and looking at all these cow patties on your pasture and going, you know, let's make a cow out of that cow patty.

Because the cow patty is entropy, right? It goes one way. We took the energy out, cow did, we did, we eat, boom, and we poop. Okay. So that's where direct air capture is to me sort of like I'm a gog. I'm absolutely a gog as a layperson that gets a hall pass as a technology that's going to make a difference. And I say some of the other ones too, just like, no, they won't work.

Because the cow patty is entropy, right? It goes one way. We took the energy out, cow did, we did, we eat, boom, and we poop. Okay. So that's where direct air capture is to me sort of like I'm a gog. I'm absolutely a gog as a layperson that gets a hall pass as a technology that's going to make a difference. And I say some of the other ones too, just like, no, they won't work.

Because the cow patty is entropy, right? It goes one way. We took the energy out, cow did, we did, we eat, boom, and we poop. Okay. So that's where direct air capture is to me sort of like I'm a gog. I'm absolutely a gog as a layperson that gets a hall pass as a technology that's going to make a difference. And I say some of the other ones too, just like, no, they won't work.

We do know what will work, but that isn't one of them.