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Paul Hawken

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726 total appearances

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Dhru Purohit Show
We’re Not Separate from Nature, We’re Made of It: An Honest Conversation About Soil, Carbon, and the Future of Humanity with Paul Hawken

Because I thought at that time, the world was upside down and backwards, especially the food industry, because I'd had my own experience of having asthma for six months to 18 years old. And then changing my diet and boom, in nine days, I could breathe again for the first time in my life without aminophil and ephedrine, without a drug. The first time I could feel air at the bottom of my lungs.

Dhru Purohit Show
We’re Not Separate from Nature, We’re Made of It: An Honest Conversation About Soil, Carbon, and the Future of Humanity with Paul Hawken

And I thought, WTF, I went to doctors all this time. And I went back to them because I had three doctors prescribing the drugs I needed because I was ODing on them. I could only, I had to get three different doses just to breathe. And I went back to them and told them about it, you know, and I went on a basically food fast, simple. And they just dismissed it. They all dismissed it.

Dhru Purohit Show
We’re Not Separate from Nature, We’re Made of It: An Honest Conversation About Soil, Carbon, and the Future of Humanity with Paul Hawken

And I thought, WTF, I went to doctors all this time. And I went back to them because I had three doctors prescribing the drugs I needed because I was ODing on them. I could only, I had to get three different doses just to breathe. And I went back to them and told them about it, you know, and I went on a basically food fast, simple. And they just dismissed it. They all dismissed it.

Dhru Purohit Show
We’re Not Separate from Nature, We’re Made of It: An Honest Conversation About Soil, Carbon, and the Future of Humanity with Paul Hawken

And I thought, WTF, I went to doctors all this time. And I went back to them because I had three doctors prescribing the drugs I needed because I was ODing on them. I could only, I had to get three different doses just to breathe. And I went back to them and told them about it, you know, and I went on a basically food fast, simple. And they just dismissed it. They all dismissed it.

Dhru Purohit Show
We’re Not Separate from Nature, We’re Made of It: An Honest Conversation About Soil, Carbon, and the Future of Humanity with Paul Hawken

Oh, psychosomatic, this, that, just a chance, you're lucky, maybe it's your age. And then I started to expand my diet, you know, because of vegetables particularly, but grain, seeds, vegetables, you know, non-seed oils, et cetera, et cetera, you know, the things that are all obvious today. And I had to go to different store, different store, Chinatown, Japantown, the Quaker store here.

Dhru Purohit Show
We’re Not Separate from Nature, We’re Made of It: An Honest Conversation About Soil, Carbon, and the Future of Humanity with Paul Hawken

Oh, psychosomatic, this, that, just a chance, you're lucky, maybe it's your age. And then I started to expand my diet, you know, because of vegetables particularly, but grain, seeds, vegetables, you know, non-seed oils, et cetera, et cetera, you know, the things that are all obvious today. And I had to go to different store, different store, Chinatown, Japantown, the Quaker store here.

Dhru Purohit Show
We’re Not Separate from Nature, We’re Made of It: An Honest Conversation About Soil, Carbon, and the Future of Humanity with Paul Hawken

Oh, psychosomatic, this, that, just a chance, you're lucky, maybe it's your age. And then I started to expand my diet, you know, because of vegetables particularly, but grain, seeds, vegetables, you know, non-seed oils, et cetera, et cetera, you know, the things that are all obvious today. And I had to go to different store, different store, Chinatown, Japantown, the Quaker store here.

Dhru Purohit Show
We’re Not Separate from Nature, We’re Made of It: An Honest Conversation About Soil, Carbon, and the Future of Humanity with Paul Hawken

I had to go to the farmer's market. And I thought, it should be a store, you know? But so when I was in Boston, there was a kind of a buyer's co-op where on Newberry Street and it was under the macrobiotics and brought in food. And then one day you just split it up. So it wasn't really a store. It was like a co-op, you know, you just came in and had bags there and scoops and, you know,

Dhru Purohit Show
We’re Not Separate from Nature, We’re Made of It: An Honest Conversation About Soil, Carbon, and the Future of Humanity with Paul Hawken

I had to go to the farmer's market. And I thought, it should be a store, you know? But so when I was in Boston, there was a kind of a buyer's co-op where on Newberry Street and it was under the macrobiotics and brought in food. And then one day you just split it up. So it wasn't really a store. It was like a co-op, you know, you just came in and had bags there and scoops and, you know,

Dhru Purohit Show
We’re Not Separate from Nature, We’re Made of It: An Honest Conversation About Soil, Carbon, and the Future of Humanity with Paul Hawken

I had to go to the farmer's market. And I thought, it should be a store, you know? But so when I was in Boston, there was a kind of a buyer's co-op where on Newberry Street and it was under the macrobiotics and brought in food. And then one day you just split it up. So it wasn't really a store. It was like a co-op, you know, you just came in and had bags there and scoops and, you know,

Dhru Purohit Show
We’re Not Separate from Nature, We’re Made of It: An Honest Conversation About Soil, Carbon, and the Future of Humanity with Paul Hawken

And so I was asked to, it became a store, sort of without a license. And I was asked to take care of it, and I did, because I could read. Nobody came in. And I loved reading. And one day somebody came into the store and said, how do you know this food is organic? And it was oats, actually. And it says, because I get it from the Mennonites in Pennsylvania. Like, come on.

Dhru Purohit Show
We’re Not Separate from Nature, We’re Made of It: An Honest Conversation About Soil, Carbon, and the Future of Humanity with Paul Hawken

And so I was asked to, it became a store, sort of without a license. And I was asked to take care of it, and I did, because I could read. Nobody came in. And I loved reading. And one day somebody came into the store and said, how do you know this food is organic? And it was oats, actually. And it says, because I get it from the Mennonites in Pennsylvania. Like, come on.

Dhru Purohit Show
We’re Not Separate from Nature, We’re Made of It: An Honest Conversation About Soil, Carbon, and the Future of Humanity with Paul Hawken

And so I was asked to, it became a store, sort of without a license. And I was asked to take care of it, and I did, because I could read. Nobody came in. And I loved reading. And one day somebody came into the store and said, how do you know this food is organic? And it was oats, actually. And it says, because I get it from the Mennonites in Pennsylvania. Like, come on.

Dhru Purohit Show
We’re Not Separate from Nature, We’re Made of It: An Honest Conversation About Soil, Carbon, and the Future of Humanity with Paul Hawken

somebody else that same week said, how do you know your oil, your seed oils, are cold pressed? I said, it says right there, you can read it, cold press. And they both, you know, I thought, I didn't know. I felt like, I didn't know they were organic, the oats. I didn't know the oil was cold-pressed. I just believed it.

Dhru Purohit Show
We’re Not Separate from Nature, We’re Made of It: An Honest Conversation About Soil, Carbon, and the Future of Humanity with Paul Hawken

somebody else that same week said, how do you know your oil, your seed oils, are cold pressed? I said, it says right there, you can read it, cold press. And they both, you know, I thought, I didn't know. I felt like, I didn't know they were organic, the oats. I didn't know the oil was cold-pressed. I just believed it.

Dhru Purohit Show
We’re Not Separate from Nature, We’re Made of It: An Honest Conversation About Soil, Carbon, and the Future of Humanity with Paul Hawken

somebody else that same week said, how do you know your oil, your seed oils, are cold pressed? I said, it says right there, you can read it, cold press. And they both, you know, I thought, I didn't know. I felt like, I didn't know they were organic, the oats. I didn't know the oil was cold-pressed. I just believed it.

Dhru Purohit Show
We’re Not Separate from Nature, We’re Made of It: An Honest Conversation About Soil, Carbon, and the Future of Humanity with Paul Hawken

So I wrote to Hayne, who's Hayne, by the way, and said, you know, tell me about your cold-pressed oils. And they said, well, there's no such thing as cold-pressed. It means cold-processed, which means, you know, we chill the oils, take out the stearate so they're clear and not cloudy. And I was furious. And then that same week,

Dhru Purohit Show
We’re Not Separate from Nature, We’re Made of It: An Honest Conversation About Soil, Carbon, and the Future of Humanity with Paul Hawken

So I wrote to Hayne, who's Hayne, by the way, and said, you know, tell me about your cold-pressed oils. And they said, well, there's no such thing as cold-pressed. It means cold-processed, which means, you know, we chill the oils, take out the stearate so they're clear and not cloudy. And I was furious. And then that same week,

Dhru Purohit Show
We’re Not Separate from Nature, We’re Made of It: An Honest Conversation About Soil, Carbon, and the Future of Humanity with Paul Hawken

So I wrote to Hayne, who's Hayne, by the way, and said, you know, tell me about your cold-pressed oils. And they said, well, there's no such thing as cold-pressed. It means cold-processed, which means, you know, we chill the oils, take out the stearate so they're clear and not cloudy. And I was furious. And then that same week,

Dhru Purohit Show
We’re Not Separate from Nature, We’re Made of It: An Honest Conversation About Soil, Carbon, and the Future of Humanity with Paul Hawken

The oats came from Pennsylvania and they came off the back of a bobtail and with no lift. And so these hundred pound bags of oats, and you could see in these Bemis bags, this label sewn into it, you know, National Oat Company, Iowa, Des Moines, Iowa.