Paul Hawken

You know, there was Azerbaijan last year in Baku and tried to come up with a, like the Paris Mandate came out of the conference of the parties, like, We, being all the countries in the world, agree that this should be so, we should do that, etc. Well, it's failed every single time for 29 years. And nothing's worked.

And the reason for that is, I'm not trying to detract from the people who attend and their sincerity, but it is, nature isn't top-down. No top-down solution is going to fix the problem. The very verb fix is the problem. because that makes it other, like we're gonna fix nature, we're gonna fix the climate crisis, we're gonna combat it, we're gonna tackle it.

And the reason for that is, I'm not trying to detract from the people who attend and their sincerity, but it is, nature isn't top-down. No top-down solution is going to fix the problem. The very verb fix is the problem. because that makes it other, like we're gonna fix nature, we're gonna fix the climate crisis, we're gonna combat it, we're gonna tackle it.

And the reason for that is, I'm not trying to detract from the people who attend and their sincerity, but it is, nature isn't top-down. No top-down solution is going to fix the problem. The very verb fix is the problem. because that makes it other, like we're gonna fix nature, we're gonna fix the climate crisis, we're gonna combat it, we're gonna tackle it.

If you look at the language that imbues the, and I would say rather sincere belief or concern about where we are, I'm not decrying that, the language absolutely guarantees failure. Because you can't fix. You can't fix something we don't even fully understand.

If you look at the language that imbues the, and I would say rather sincere belief or concern about where we are, I'm not decrying that, the language absolutely guarantees failure. Because you can't fix. You can't fix something we don't even fully understand.

If you look at the language that imbues the, and I would say rather sincere belief or concern about where we are, I'm not decrying that, the language absolutely guarantees failure. Because you can't fix. You can't fix something we don't even fully understand.

You can either work with the flow of life, or you can be in that flow of life, you can respect the flow of life, or you can take, extract, destroy, and for whatever purpose you think you have a right to do. And that's what's happening in the world. And so we... Hear that term, it's an extractive economy, very much so.

You can either work with the flow of life, or you can be in that flow of life, you can respect the flow of life, or you can take, extract, destroy, and for whatever purpose you think you have a right to do. And that's what's happening in the world. And so we... Hear that term, it's an extractive economy, very much so.

You can either work with the flow of life, or you can be in that flow of life, you can respect the flow of life, or you can take, extract, destroy, and for whatever purpose you think you have a right to do. And that's what's happening in the world. And so we... Hear that term, it's an extractive economy, very much so.

I mean, 500 years ago, when the Portuguese and the Spanish and the Dutch and others came, the English, of course, came out of Europe, I mean, they basically took whatever they wanted. They took people, they took cultures, they took land, they took crops, they took anything and brought it home, sold it, made a lot of money.

I mean, 500 years ago, when the Portuguese and the Spanish and the Dutch and others came, the English, of course, came out of Europe, I mean, they basically took whatever they wanted. They took people, they took cultures, they took land, they took crops, they took anything and brought it home, sold it, made a lot of money.

I mean, 500 years ago, when the Portuguese and the Spanish and the Dutch and others came, the English, of course, came out of Europe, I mean, they basically took whatever they wanted. They took people, they took cultures, they took land, they took crops, they took anything and brought it home, sold it, made a lot of money.

and maybe even more ships to go out and extract from the living world, minerals, silver, gold, et cetera. And we're still in that economy. Absolutely. In fact, even more so than we were in the 16th and 17th century. And so how do we change that? I mean, because people are insecure, they want more, they don't want less. And there has to be a point where we realize that more is creating less.

and maybe even more ships to go out and extract from the living world, minerals, silver, gold, et cetera. And we're still in that economy. Absolutely. In fact, even more so than we were in the 16th and 17th century. And so how do we change that? I mean, because people are insecure, they want more, they don't want less. And there has to be a point where we realize that more is creating less.

and maybe even more ships to go out and extract from the living world, minerals, silver, gold, et cetera. And we're still in that economy. Absolutely. In fact, even more so than we were in the 16th and 17th century. And so how do we change that? I mean, because people are insecure, they want more, they don't want less. And there has to be a point where we realize that more is creating less.

I mean, we're getting more and more and more. You can see it in our stores, you can see it in people's lifestyle, you can see it in homes, you can see it in the cars, whatever. But actually, there's less and less and less. The planet is starting to starve, starting to be decimated, starting to be not just deforested, but reduced. Look at what's happening for batteries in the Teslas.

I mean, we're getting more and more and more. You can see it in our stores, you can see it in people's lifestyle, you can see it in homes, you can see it in the cars, whatever. But actually, there's less and less and less. The planet is starting to starve, starting to be decimated, starting to be not just deforested, but reduced. Look at what's happening for batteries in the Teslas.

I mean, we're getting more and more and more. You can see it in our stores, you can see it in people's lifestyle, you can see it in homes, you can see it in the cars, whatever. But actually, there's less and less and less. The planet is starting to starve, starting to be decimated, starting to be not just deforested, but reduced. Look at what's happening for batteries in the Teslas.

Put the Tesla side or Elon Musk aside, The batteries have cathodes and anodes, of course, in storage. Cathodes made of what? I mean, what do we make it out of? Well, we make it out of cobalt. Where does the cobalt come from primarily? The Congo. What's happening in the Congo? Well, besides war, Paul Kagame and Rwanda, there's different armies, but children...