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Paul Krugman

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
462 total appearances

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Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

But, you know, that bubble was in large part telecoms companies rather than dot coms.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

And the telecoms companies had real revenue and just not enough to justify the valuations.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

And the technological, the technology actually did deliver.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

Maybe not on quite the ethical scale that people had hoped for, but we really did get a decade of substantially accelerated productivity growth out of the technology.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

So it was, it was real stuff.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

What happened was that the idea that early movers and we're going to be able to, as we now say, build a moat around their position, that they were going to be able to earn sustained high profits.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

turned out to be wrong.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

And in many ways, we look similar now.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

I think we're past the point of wondering whether AI is actually going to do anything useful.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

We still don't know how much useful it's going to do, but it's clearly something real.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

And there's real revenues coming in.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

But on the other hand, the valuations are far, far above anything that you would normally expect from those revenues.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

So the valuations depend on the belief

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

that these are going to lead to entrenched positions for the existing companies.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

Yeah.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

And not just that the U.S.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

will continue to dominate, but that the MAG-7 will continue to dominate and that there won't be some contender, U.S.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

contender, European contender,

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

You know, it's worth remembering that although European macroeconomics doesn't look too good, there's a whole lot of, it's not as if the technological sophistication is restricted to the United States.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
AI, markets, and power: A conversation with Paul Krugman (2025 re-run)

And so, and it's really hard.