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Paul Kudrowski

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457 total appearances

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Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

So I was saying, okay, fine, this is crazy.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

I should do the math.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

So I did the math and I found out that in the first half of this year,

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

data center-related spending, so spending on these giant buildings full of GPUs and racks and servers and what have you, that are then used in turn by the large AI firms to generate responses and train models, that that probably accounted for something like half of GDP growth in the first half of the year, which was absolutely bananas.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

And I was like, I did the math four or five different ways trying to prove myself wrong.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

And then I said, okay, fine.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

This feels like something I should mention.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

And so I said it, and...

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

I think it's a startling figure for a whole bunch of reasons, one of which you alluded to, which is that even compared to historical spending, whether you pick the telecom bubble or railroads or whatever else, and we can dive into those, it's unprecedented.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

It's also unprecedented because of the nature of the spending, which I think is incredibly important because railroads are very different from GPUs, not just in the trivial sense, but in some very deep and important ways.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

And all of this gets missed, but the upshot is

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

Spending is huge.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

It's driving the economy.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

People are very confused about this.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

And as a result, you end up making bad policy decisions because you think policy decision A is driving the economy when it's this wacky stuff over here on the left.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

A little more than half the cost of a data center are the chips that are going in.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

So say 60%, it varies depending on the model of the data center, because there's a whole bunch of different styles of data centers, if you will.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

There are some that are built almost on spec.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

Think of companies like CoreWeave, where they're buying it, and it's almost like they're hoping to tend into building.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

Think about it as commercial real estate.