Paul Lagerman

I think that is the real struggle that we're running into.

And it's not in the House, it's in the Senate.

And in the Senate today, that's where we're seeing the pushback.

That's where the vote count is in difficult territory.

We have to move five more votes over to make sure that we can be successful in the Indiana Senate.

So in the Senate, the body's 50.

It's 40-10 Democrats.

But you've got to remember, you've got Republicans teaming up with Democrats to kill redistricting in the Indiana Senate.

So this is the real difficulty.

Now, a couple of weeks ago, in what we call Organization Day, this is the day when the committees are assigned, when the rules are adopted, all the things for the upcoming session are happening.

An unscheduled vote occurred in the Senate, and that was to not do a special session and not deal with redistricting.

And it passed.

OK, so now that was Democrats and Republicans, Republicans light, maybe I guess we should say.

Teaming up to say we don't want to deal with the process.

Well, the House countered that.

And when Speaker Houston opened up this session early, he forced the issue.

And up until just a few days ago, the Senate was not ready to come back in.

The Senate has announced that they will be back in on the 8th.

So as this process concludes this week, the Senate will return and the Senate will have to deal with this issue, I think, in a meaningful way.

Now, what we've seen is an amazing amount of pressure from the grassroots, from the base of the conservative base is, I guess, the best way to say this.