Paul Maggiato

That's when they were facing life without parole, and the idea of cooperating became all the more relevant to them.

and the original plan was for him to try and find someone to kill Greg Smart.

And they really couldn't find anybody to kill him, you know, so eventually Pam started putting pressure on Billy, he said, you gotta kill Greg Smart, and this is how you can do it.

And they agree to help him in part because Pam says to them, you can have whatever you want out of the apartment.

And Billy tells them she'll give you $1,000 each, which Pam reneges on with Billy later and says, I'll give him $500 each.

I said, God forgive me.

I pulled the trigger.

Yeah, that's the gun I got out of the drawer.

$500 in cash.

Pam Smart.

Pam had said that she did not want to use, well, she did not want the knife used because of the mess the blood would make and how she had the furniture, everything in the house, she had white leather furniture and stuff.

He was telling us not to hurt him.

Please don't hurt him, dude.

Please don't, you know, take him for his life.

And then... She told me she was going to dance for me like that.

Like, provocative.

Like a striptease type of thing.

She started crying.

And that got me upset.

And she was saying that the only way that we're going to be able to be together is if, um...