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The Russell Brunson Show

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And if you think about it, it's kind of like the personal development that you create when you have these skill sets is the personal development that raises those with you up as well, too.

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So it's the way to live with everyone being free and equal in a way that builds everyone up, even when there's differences, even if they don't see it your way, even if they're not a supporter of your business, for example, like the old things that used to keep us stuck. These are things now that when you can bridge those differences, everyone rises. So everything around you grows.

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Instead of I'm powerful away from everyone by myself, I'm a powerful being, which is great. Now I'm a powerful being with everyone else, and I'm bringing them up as well, too. So it is the missing piece in personal development. It's the missing piece in how we relate. It's the missing piece as to why we're

The Russell Brunson Show

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The slow decay happens, as we can expect in a long-term relationship, and how it was avoidable. We couldn't see that it was avoidable, so people had all these false beliefs that were created, such as love just fades over time. And we hear that. Normally, after you get married, you'll hear that. you know, but it really is a kind of thing that people accept and like, that's just the way it is.

The Russell Brunson Show

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Actually, that's just the way it was. Um, and it didn't have to be that way. And that's the real breakthrough here is there is a way of relating to others in a longterm relationship that stops that wall from growing, allows each to be independently, authentically who they are without needing to compromise, which is what we always thought we were doing.

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We thought we were showing up, you know, as our best self. But over time, as that wall grows, we don't show up as our best self because when we hit the end of our skillset,

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now we don't have any tools we end up ramping up the demand relationship which causes the bricks to stack faster and we isolate ourselves from others so when we can stop the brick walls stop the isolation come back to being together and authentically who we are without having to compromise or please now we have that magic which is what we thought that relationship would be the long-term relationship and everyone thrives because they're authentically who they are and they're happy so

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It really is the missing piece, which is why the book title became so important. All of these pieces fit together. And this was the hole in the middle that was unfulfilled all this time.

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Come on now. I'm impressed. Come on now.

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Another thing too, too, is like Russell, you said it, and that's how it is. As parents, we care so much. We're willing to sort of take the sword and be the bad guy, we think, to get an outcome. And then what happens is, and this is one of the many false beliefs because we didn't have another way, is we end up bringing more and more force.

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So as they get older, they're teenagers, they listen less, we have to ramp it up. Now we have to yell louder. We have to have more consequences because we've run to the end of our skill set. And even though we had the best of intentions, we're, as you said, we're damaging that relationship.

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What would be great for everybody to think about is, you know, in a relationship, if you're bringing force over and over, even with the best of intentions, with the best of caring, which we all have as parents, one of two things is going to happen. If you keep bringing force to something over time, it will either break, not good, or it's going to harden against you. teenage rebellion.

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And then what are we left with? Without the skill sets, we're still trying to get the outcome for their best, greatest good in life. And we care so much, but it's futile. And all we're doing is actually getting the opposite. So just like you said, so astutely, we have less and less influence. Eventually, they're just going to leave.

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And that goes back to that false belief that we actually have the ability to sort of force this outcome for them.

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And here's the other fault with that, which is unexpected for people, which is when we do this, even though we have the best of intentions, the more they push us away, the more they block it out, the very thing we wanted to give them becomes the very thing they don't want to hear at all. So we're actually getting the opposite outcome, thinking we're doing the best for them. And if we just...

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accept the futility. They don't have to look very far for past experience with this to just be like, you know what? I accept that that's futile. That at least is an opening for someone to say, all right, there must be another way, a better way. And there is. And that's what we're trying to get our message out to the world on is like, there's a better way. And this is futile.

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If you're just willing to accept the fact that granted it's the only model we've ever known, but it doesn't work when people are free. And what's more, just like you said, is, um, We want that relationship with our children these days. Maybe in past decades, it wasn't that kind of a way. But these days, we really do care about having that relationship.

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And you said it also so astutely, which is we still have their ear. If you don't get them to harden against you or break when they do leave and we can no longer watch out for them, they're off at college or they're away somewhere and we can't watch out for them, All we hope is like, well, I hope that some of the stuff that I was trying to give them got through. Right.

The Russell Brunson Show

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But if we can stay within what we call the sphere of influence and have real influence, have a real relationship with them, have them really tell us what's going on, even if it's uncomfortable.

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Now we're with them still and we're still able to be a guide for them, which is really what we wanted in life while they become their own person who takes those actions on their own when we're not watching autonomously and authentically for themselves because that they own it.

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They appreciate it and they're not blocking it out. They're not rebelling against it. Like it becomes part of them. So if we're not trying to force it in, people will be open. Our children will listen when we have that outcome at our household, which is they genuinely ask us, well, what do you think? And I don't think that's what's happening for most teenagers in most of the world right now.

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But because of the environment we've created, they actually come to us and they know like, all right, you've got a lot of years ahead of me. What do you think? What do you see? And sometimes they're like, no. Right. And that's OK. But they're listening and they're asking. And that's the most important thing.

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So we're truly getting a chance to help give them the gifts, show them what it is that we've learned from life, what we value in life and offer it to them. And it's truly an offer. There's no pushing. There's no you must. There's no demand, no attachment to the outcome. And they get a chance to weigh it out.

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Now, the great thing about that is so when they do leave and they're outside of our sphere of influence directly where we can't see what's going on, it's who they are. And then when they own it, it's effortless for us. There's no forcing. There's no, hey, did you do this? Like they do it for themselves because they know it's the right thing to do and they own it.

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So if we really want to give to someone, the most important thing is not to force it. to create that sphere of influence. So they're willing to listen. And then whatever's authentic for them, they will own. And we don't have to push ever again on that. It just becomes effortless for them. And they see the wisdom, which is all we wanted to give the insights.

The Russell Brunson Show

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You know, Russell, I remember the time on stage where we were telling you what we do and we're like, and it only takes one person. And you're like, you go, if you could do that, that's like worth $10 billion or whatever. I forget what your response was. And he laughed. And he laughed, right? Because you thought we were joking. Yeah, and we were serious.

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And I think that was one of the key elements too, is we had spent so much time on this journey where people think that's impossible. Like there's no way unless somebody is willing to meet me halfway, there's nothing I can do. I'm helpless, which is where we found ourselves. I thought there was nothing I can do. I'm just at the whim of where this relationship is.

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And so we talk about that to this day, like how the world is at that place and it's understandable that the world is at this place. So we also had to be able to create that foundational message for the world, which is, you know, one person actually is the one who's always changing it and relationship is a closed loop. And no one has seen it that way before.

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We thought we were just at the whim of personalities or we're just, did I pick wrong because I was lucky or unlucky? Um, And all of these false beliefs that we carry actually are all the symptoms of our lack of skill set and our lack of visibility of these fundamental principles that are really involved in a human relationship.

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And then taking it back to business and work as well, too, is when we accept the fact that this is a closed loop, how we show up in business, how we show up with our kids, how we show up at home, how we show up with our parents, we do have the power. And that was one of the things that has been off of everyone's radar that made it where

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People would laugh and we'd say it only takes one person to change a relationship because people just didn't conceive it was even real. And yet it's what we have found is it's the truth behind what's really happening. And everything else that we're suffering with, we're suffering as a result of what has been a missing piece. It is one person.

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And when we get our power back and we stop blaming others for why things can't work and we take personal responsibility for what we're putting into the loop, Now we end up, instead of demanding and working uphill, trying to force the changes that we'd like to see around us, we are leaders who decide what is the outcome that I want and how's the best way to get there with their true cooperation.

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Instead of they're going to fold to my power, how do I genuinely get them to collaborate with me on what it is I'm trying to accomplish and work? What's already motivating them

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and work with that what are their existing skill sets how are they wired working with that as a leader to guide it in our businesses for our children what is their strength what are the things that are not their strengths right how to how to help them be their authentic selves they're as they were meant to be wired not to keep pointing out the things that they were not wired for because we all have things that were really strong and things that were not so when we start to get that fundamental message out into the world

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that was the fundamental pieces. This book had to make it crystal clear that by the time you're done with this, that you can no longer see it as I have no power to make a difference here.

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It had to be that, that we call it landing with a thud message because otherwise people just will continue to, to like surrender to my circumstances and just say, this is impossible and throw up their hands thinking there's no way it can work. Much like was my story that night with Stacy saying, there's nothing else I can do. I was dead wrong. And what,

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We have to save people in that way, which is, no, actually, you're just beginning now. Now that you accept the fact that what I've been doing is futile, now you're ready to begin. So it needed to be that message that made it from, like, what? These crazy people saying one person can change any relationship?

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to, oh my gosh, I see how the couple's approach is actually a failing approach because nobody's going to just always come over to my side of the fence and see it my way. So like it had to be that foundational message as well too. And I think Stacey did such a phenomenal job of bringing, um, like her, she has a gift with words and creating stories of actual dialogue between people.

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And I think most people will see themselves in this dialogue. And it, and I think that's one of the ways that Stacey really shined in what she brought to the book. was just the reality of the stories and them seeing themselves in it.

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And such another good example of us both showing up with the best of intentions, not seeing what's really happening and getting into a kerfuffle, walking away like, I don't understand. And why, yeah, why do they hate me now? So like we call this, this is one of the frameworks around help. So the masculine and feminine have a very different perspective around help and support.

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So for the masculine, we're autonomous creatures by nature. We, we will just, we, we have a goal. We're going to set ourselves out to go get that goal. And we're not going to ask for help unless we really, really need it. Cause we're like, why would we like, this is my job. It's my task. I'm autonomous. I'll go get it done. And in fact,

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to imply that I needed help to get it done makes me think like, why do you think I can't do this? What's wrong with me? Like already we're like, dude, like I got this, I got this, right? So for the masculine, that's our way of seeing the world. We move through the world. And what's more is the masculine is 100% wired to get to the end.

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And the obstacles along the way are quite frankly, part of the challenge, part of the fun, part of what made that goal worthwhile. So for us, We're always looking at the end. We do not value being partway there for the most part. The masculine is like, okay, so I'm 25% there. I'm not there. Like when I get there, then I'll celebrate.

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When I get there, I'll kind of take inventory and be like, oh my gosh, I took a lot of wounds along the way, but you know, it was worth it, but I did it, right? So we're not even thinking about anything else except the end. And we don't value the journey. Now the feminine is wired very differently. So from their view of the world, going alone is not what they want.

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They would prefer any other path for the most part than doing it alone. And what's more is instinctively in a feminine environment, they will support each other like we're here with you. You got it. Like we're going to be there with you all the way. And they love and appreciate that support along the way. And what's more is acknowledging every little like success along the way.

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Like, oh, look at that. So good. Like, oh, you just you got that far. Oh, that's fantastic.

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like you finished the first three pages of the book that's awesome and i did and i did say it because i know better i can't do page four unless this was good and if you don't they're like what's wrong with him why is he being such a you know what right for me you don't care he doesn't even see me doesn't care And we're like, why would I coddle her? No, she's got to get to the end, right?

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So we have a different view. But they need that. For the family, they need that support along the way. And what's more is if you don't give it, there's a whole lot of negative beliefs that will come from their blueprint and how they see the world and how they move through the world that they expected you to show up with.

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Just like we expected them to just take this and get to the end and tell me when you're at the end. And what's more is there's so many different models to that. But at the end of the day, what you're talking about is what we call the timeline for help. And where we get into kerfuffle is the masculine.

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If you said to the masculine where he's partway through to getting to where his goal is, you're like, Stacy does this so well. I'll try to mimic a little bit where it's like, oh, so good. You're 25% of the way. Or it's so cool how you did that with the hammer and you made that little piece of wood there. Like, that's amazing. Like, we would be like so offended. Like, why are you cuddling me? Yeah.

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I haven't accomplished anything yet. Leave me alone. Yeah, it feels insulting and leave me alone, right? And that's our thing. So because we have that belief that it's not, we don't need help until we get to the end, we run into lots of false beliefs. And also we feel unsupported by the other or coddled or misunderstood or just like babied.

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All these negative things happen only because we have a different view of help. What's even more damaging is now for the masculine, Because we wait till we get to the end, we assume that even when the feminine comes to us and asks for help, that she has already exhausted everything and requires our help now. And that's not true at all either.

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And this creates so many kerfuffles where usually for the feminine, they're just beginning. If they're asking for help, they're asking for help in the beginning. And this comes up every day in our relationships where it's like, hey, can I ask you something? Like, oh, sure, sure. Or I need help with this. Would you help me with this? You're like, sure, sure. I'm ready to serve.

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I'm here to show up and help. And then she's like, I really need help with this. And she starts talking and maybe she drifts off to the topic or something else. And right off the bat, the nail in the head story is like, we're trying to fix it. We're like, oh, here's what you need to do right here. And we hop right in and we tell them what they need to do. And then they get angry with us.

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We're like, why are you angry? You asked for my help. It's because they are asking for help in the beginning of their journey. They didn't want your decisions or your opinions. They didn't want to feel judged. They didn't want you to solve it for them. This is why the nail in the head story is so misunderstood. It's such a good story. It's such a good video.

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It's so well done, but it's showing the symptom and the underlying problem is the timeline and how we see the need for help. And because we assume she wouldn't come to me and ask for help unless she wanted me to tell her exactly what to do. We're already wrong the moment it starts.

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And when they get angry because they were actually trying to process this out and collaborate with us to kind of get some insights and kind of work it through, we anger them, shut it down, and now we feel judged. Like, but don't even come to me. Like, we get into these fights. Like, stop coming to me for help because every time I tell you, you don't listen to me.

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And then Joe Smith tells you the same thing I would have told you, and you're like, oh, that's wonderful. Yeah. Right. But because at that point she was ready to actually hear it because she had already worked through the first part of her journey. So there's so much that we don't understand. And we're constantly causing fights unnecessarily.

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And even on something as simple of the timeline of when someone will ask for help, masculine or feminine, is creating a cascade of problems and fights that were unnecessary only because we didn't understand the differences between the masculine and feminine around help.

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And you can see this will come up in the workplace. It'll come up with your spouse. It comes up with your children. Like, so the, the. a pliability of this across the board is huge. And that's just one piece. And this is why it seems impossible for us to have relationships work. Right.

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But the truth is it's literally been this lack of visibility and a lack of skill sets to address this lack of visibility that is causing all the dysfunction. Cause we, As humans, we're wired to be social creatures. If we're not held when we're born, if we're not cared for when we're born, we perish.

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We are literally designed to be connected and to embrace all the greatness of everyone's gifts around us. We embrace the gifts that you offer us. If it wasn't for you, I mean, I can't even imagine where we'd be. So we all have a piece to bring. And when we can bridge these differences between us and then take advantage of all the great, magnificent gifts

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powers that everybody has and put them together and collaborate in a work environment, for example. Hopefully you're hiring people with different skill sets, right? But hopefully they're masculine and feminine and bringing those differences too. When we try to get together to collaborate, if we don't understand how to do that, it's hard to get that machine to work.

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But when we can get it to work and see it for what it is, which is really the first part of what we've been missing, and then have the tools to make it hum like a machine, now we get all the gifts that everybody's bringing to the table, and it hums like a machine, and we can do this. We haven't been doing this. We fall down because we haven't had a model for it. There wasn't a need before.

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But when we really embrace the gifts that everybody brings, that variety, man, we're unstoppable. So there is a way. And it's sad that here we are in 2025 and we're sort of just finding the way. I'm discovering it. Exactly. But it applies everywhere. And the workplace is such a big example of learning how to really collaborate in ways where they're on board with you too.

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Thank you for helping us grow to this point. Amen.

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Yeah, so, you know, like for me, it was a case where I didn't feel good about what I was doing and what I was coming there for that night, but I didn't see any other way. Like to me, I had struggled with this for a long time. We had a lot of our kerfuffles back and forth, and they seemed to be getting more and more frequent. They seemed to be getting more intense.

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And for me, I sort of have like this tripwire, this trapdoor where like I'm really calm, I'm understanding, and I'm patient until I get pushed just a little too far. And the problem really that came about for me was, you know, in these later days of that part of our relationship, it was getting to the point where now I'm becoming hostile, I'm becoming aggressive. So like, it was deteriorating.

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And at the same time, I didn't know why, like, I was so frustrated. I'm like, I wrongly believed it was just us, like, somehow, we're just incompatible or And I had all these false beliefs that we now know so many other people have as well, too, that I just felt like it was hopeless. I'm like, I'm a really logical guy.

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I'm committed and I'm not a lightweight where like I'm willing to, as I call it, take the sword and do, you know, take the sword for the greater good and kind of suck it up. But it was only making it worse for both of us. So, you know, it was getting worse for her. It's getting worse for me. So I felt like the honorable right thing to do was just to take that stand and say, you know what?

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you be free. You're going to be happier with someone else. I'll be happier clearly at some point somewhere else too, but I don't know why this isn't working, but I see no possible way this can work out. And because of that hopelessness, I felt like it was the right thing to do was just to be like, I'm sorry, this is over.

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And honestly, to take such a strong stance to say, and there's like, there's no going back. I was so certain about it because I didn't want it to be like a, we're kind of broken up. I wanted to do the honorable thing and say, this is over and end it. And, um, And I think that that's why, like, and I, in hindsight now, like, how awful for me to have blindsided her and not have brought this up.

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But I felt like at the time that all of these fights were sort of saying it for me, right? And that she would just understand. But, you know, the breakdown was the breakthrough. And thank God for this breakdown moment. And we often say to our students now, too, like, I actually pray that you hit the wall. Yeah. Because it's only when you hit the wall are you willing to do something different.

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And that was Stacey. So the real hero here was Stacey because she was willing to do something different. And she did. And to be fair, she wasn't doing it for me. Rightly so. She was doing it for a better life for herself. And I honored that. And it led to the breakthrough that we never intended to discover. But that hopelessness is where we see people, you know, breaking down and divorcing now.

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And from our perspective, having gone through and made it through successfully, like that's such an incredible tragedy. And it really is because we're hitting the point where we feel like there's nothing more I can do. And this is hopeless. And therefore we have all these false beliefs as to why it's not going to work. And what we've learned is they are all false beliefs.

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And it's all thanks to the journey that Stacey took.