Paul Mecurio

We call him my uncle. That's way too precise an example. My uncle Archie. But doesn't it sort of beg for that on some level? Sort of if there's that level of sort of death rate relative to renewables?

We call him my uncle. That's way too precise an example. My uncle Archie. But doesn't it sort of beg for that on some level? Sort of if there's that level of sort of death rate relative to renewables?

So it doesn't sound so clean. But can't you point to the fact that nuclear power has been around for years, and people have accepted the fact that there's radioactive waste sort of hanging out anyway? Like, it's not a completely new concept?

So it doesn't sound so clean. But can't you point to the fact that nuclear power has been around for years, and people have accepted the fact that there's radioactive waste sort of hanging out anyway? Like, it's not a completely new concept?

And what people seem to ignore is if you put it in the right bag on Sunday nights when you put your garbage out, it's radioactive material, they'll pick it up.

And what people seem to ignore is if you put it in the right bag on Sunday nights when you put your garbage out, it's radioactive material, they'll pick it up.

Put it in the blue bag. And put it on Staten Island.

Put it in the blue bag. And put it on Staten Island.

Exactly. There's the glowing Paul house.

Exactly. There's the glowing Paul house.

Not yet. But is this an extension of this plasma fusion, which has a break-even? issue, right? More heat goes in to get the heat out, and that's an extension of traditional fusion process, right?

Not yet. But is this an extension of this plasma fusion, which has a break-even? issue, right? More heat goes in to get the heat out, and that's an extension of traditional fusion process, right?

Maybe if you guys tried harder, there would be.

Maybe if you guys tried harder, there would be.

Here we go. Here we go. Okay. It went that way. By the way, when you were at the Department of Energy, when you left your office at night, would you turn the thermostat down? I'm just curious. Okay, good.

Here we go. Here we go. Okay. It went that way. By the way, when you were at the Department of Energy, when you left your office at night, would you turn the thermostat down? I'm just curious. Okay, good.

And the issue there is in sort of these data centers, which are going to are and will continue to be everywhere, and the scaling of traditional power plants, nuclear power plants, you have to get to SMRs, right, which are not fully developed yet. Paul, could you tell the rest of us what SMR means? Small modular reactors. Did he get it right, Catherine?

And the issue there is in sort of these data centers, which are going to are and will continue to be everywhere, and the scaling of traditional power plants, nuclear power plants, you have to get to SMRs, right, which are not fully developed yet. Paul, could you tell the rest of us what SMR means? Small modular reactors. Did he get it right, Catherine?

Catherine, do you know how exhausting it is that I have to carry this guy all the time? But in that sense, the proximity is an issue, right? Because if your data centers are too far away from the source, the nuclear source of energy, you're going to have loss of data, loss of energy.

Catherine, do you know how exhausting it is that I have to carry this guy all the time? But in that sense, the proximity is an issue, right? Because if your data centers are too far away from the source, the nuclear source of energy, you're going to have loss of data, loss of energy.