Paul Moss

So the ceasefire deal is still on, a source of relief for Israelis and Palestinians alike. But we're still in the first of three phases. The really difficult issues, Israel's military withdrawal and the future of the devastated Gaza Strip, have yet to be decided, even negotiated.

So the ceasefire deal is still on, a source of relief for Israelis and Palestinians alike. But we're still in the first of three phases. The really difficult issues, Israel's military withdrawal and the future of the devastated Gaza Strip, have yet to be decided, even negotiated.

Well, it doesn't appear to be, no. Gaza is regarded as occupied territory under international law. Now, that is something that Israelis dispute. They say their occupation ended in 2005. But for various reasons, the broad sweep of opinion today is that it is still occupied. And as such, Israel does not have the right to remove or transfer civilians from areas under its control.

Well, it doesn't appear to be, no. Gaza is regarded as occupied territory under international law. Now, that is something that Israelis dispute. They say their occupation ended in 2005. But for various reasons, the broad sweep of opinion today is that it is still occupied. And as such, Israel does not have the right to remove or transfer civilians from areas under its control.

And frankly, no one has that right. It is simply a violation of international law to deport civilians against their will. The Palestinians also regard Gaza as sovereign territory. So any changes to the status of that territory would obviously be the subject of Palestinian rejection. For a number of reasons, this does not seem to be a feasible proposal.

And frankly, no one has that right. It is simply a violation of international law to deport civilians against their will. The Palestinians also regard Gaza as sovereign territory. So any changes to the status of that territory would obviously be the subject of Palestinian rejection. For a number of reasons, this does not seem to be a feasible proposal.

And I don't frankly think that it is what Donald Trump is suggesting. I think what he wants is to create a set of circumstances in which Palestinian civilians decide to leave of their own accord, as probably upwards of 150,000 people already have.

And I don't frankly think that it is what Donald Trump is suggesting. I think what he wants is to create a set of circumstances in which Palestinian civilians decide to leave of their own accord, as probably upwards of 150,000 people already have.

It is. I mean, the negotiations on phase two of this protracted ceasefire have yet to really begin. And it is hard to see how Mr. Trump's intervention is likely to increase the chances of success. If you are in Hamas's shoes right now, you're thinking, what exactly are we negotiating about? If the end result of all of this is that Gaza is to be simply destroyed,

It is. I mean, the negotiations on phase two of this protracted ceasefire have yet to really begin. And it is hard to see how Mr. Trump's intervention is likely to increase the chances of success. If you are in Hamas's shoes right now, you're thinking, what exactly are we negotiating about? If the end result of all of this is that Gaza is to be simply destroyed,

depopulated, not just Hamas losing its political and military control, but the entire population removed, then what incentive is there for Hamas to release the remaining hostages, dead or alive, that it still has? And so that is going to be a I think, on the other hand, Donald Trump has made it easier for Benjamin Netanyahu to proceed because he's given Israel a bit of a gift here.

depopulated, not just Hamas losing its political and military control, but the entire population removed, then what incentive is there for Hamas to release the remaining hostages, dead or alive, that it still has? And so that is going to be a I think, on the other hand, Donald Trump has made it easier for Benjamin Netanyahu to proceed because he's given Israel a bit of a gift here.

It's something that has caused Benjamin Netanyahu's hardline right-wing colleagues to say that they're not planning on leaving the government just yet. So it's given him a bit of political breathing room on his own side. But it's hard to see the negotiations working with this prospect looming in the distance.

It's something that has caused Benjamin Netanyahu's hardline right-wing colleagues to say that they're not planning on leaving the government just yet. So it's given him a bit of political breathing room on his own side. But it's hard to see the negotiations working with this prospect looming in the distance.

The M23 had said that they had declared that ceasefire for humanitarian reasons, but people were shocked when there were reports that they attacked Nyabibwe in South Kivu Province earlier today. And, of course, the government reacted to that saying that they were, of course, violating their own ceasefire and it showed that the announcement was merely a ploy.

The M23 had said that they had declared that ceasefire for humanitarian reasons, but people were shocked when there were reports that they attacked Nyabibwe in South Kivu Province earlier today. And, of course, the government reacted to that saying that they were, of course, violating their own ceasefire and it showed that the announcement was merely a ploy.

It's raising key questions about the intentions of the group. After they captured Goma, they were intending to cross over to South Kivu to capture Bukavu, which is the capital of South Kivu, just a few kilometers away from Ruzizi on the Rwandan side of the border where I'm speaking to you from. But then they said that they had no intentions to capture Bukavu or other territories.

It's raising key questions about the intentions of the group. After they captured Goma, they were intending to cross over to South Kivu to capture Bukavu, which is the capital of South Kivu, just a few kilometers away from Ruzizi on the Rwandan side of the border where I'm speaking to you from. But then they said that they had no intentions to capture Bukavu or other territories.

But today's fighting in Nyabibwe just showed that, of course, they might have just had other plans for the future. So what does it appear that they want? What are they after? Basically, they are seeking an expansionist agenda because after they conquered Goma, they believe that it's time for them to capture more territories.

But today's fighting in Nyabibwe just showed that, of course, they might have just had other plans for the future. So what does it appear that they want? What are they after? Basically, they are seeking an expansionist agenda because after they conquered Goma, they believe that it's time for them to capture more territories.