Paul Moss

Is that a fair assessment?

It is a fair assessment.

I mean, there are great roles.

You think of Anthony Hopkins in The Father, for example.

I mean, what an amazing piece of work that was.

And, you know, don't get me wrong, I'll go anywhere and do anything for a good role.

But this was very much my appreciation of and my love for and my respect for Kate.

Working with her, I could see she had the director's chops, so to speak.

I mean, she said it's not a film actually about dying.

It's a film about living and people have tended to find it quite uplifting.

I wonder if you saw it like that as you were making it.

Very much.

It's about the dynamics and the problems and the challenges and the love of family.

You've talked about ageing and I was rather struck by your use of the word thrilling.

I've got an article from Corriere della Sera in front of me from July when you were quoted as saying how thrilling it is to be 80.

And I've heard many adjectives alongside the figure of 80, not very often thrilling.

And I wonder where the thrill came from.

Yes, for goodness.

Well, no, I mean...

It is thrilling to be alive.